I'm glad they're approaching it in a way beyond just "make everything more expensive". It's interesting how when it comes to climate change, a lot of the same people who are otherwise committed to egalitarian ideals immediately jump to "just charge more" as a solution for everything. I'm not saying those kind of policies can't be a piece of the solution, but I really don't see it being effective to tell all but the r…
Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism
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#42Currently living in Barcelona, where 'overtourism' is a much bigger problem than in Norway IMHO, it feels weird. You start passing bills on restricting tourism, then the natural next step is being hard on immigration, then Brexit. The ability to control who goes in and who goes out usually falls on the hand of those that shouldn't have that kind of power. Edit: Removed "At the risk of being downvoted" as some comment…
Yea it’s a funny word “overtourism”. I guess it’s what you call it when other people go on vacation (whereas when I go on vacation it’s just “tourism”). :P
It all comes down to the question "who do you think you are to block my path?" It's not a straightforward answer, though. We've been struggling to answer this as human beings since forever.
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#44There's no silver bullet. Tackling overtourism means limiting the number of tourists. One way to do that is to impose high enough prices.
Alternatively we could try to make them not all go to the same few spots, ie make more spots tourist friendly.
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#45Currently living in Barcelona, where 'overtourism' is a much bigger problem than in Norway IMHO, it feels weird. You start passing bills on restricting tourism, then the natural next step is being hard on immigration, then Brexit. The ability to control who goes in and who goes out usually falls on the hand of those that shouldn't have that kind of power. Edit: Removed "At the risk of being downvoted" as some comment…
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then only the wealthy may have holidays.
You cannot limit the number of visitors and let everyone have this sort of holidays. The most beneficial way to limit the number of visitors for local communities is to increase prices. If they want to reserve a number of places for people to be able to visit at a low(er) cost (e.g. through a lottery) then good for them, but there is no entitlement to go on holidays to others' countries or to unique places.
Can you expand on that, it doesn't seem self-evident to me.
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#47Currently living in Barcelona, where 'overtourism' is a much bigger problem than in Norway IMHO, it feels weird. You start passing bills on restricting tourism, then the natural next step is being hard on immigration, then Brexit. The ability to control who goes in and who goes out usually falls on the hand of those that shouldn't have that kind of power. Edit: Removed "At the risk of being downvoted" as some comment…
So, just ignore the problem? That doesn't help.
My criticism is that this problem is hard. Should we do nothing instead? No. Just think harder.
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#48Problem is tourists will then move to cheaper destinations and with that usually comes even worse environmental consequences.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then only the wealthy may have holidays.
Holidays doesn't mean "travelling to another country in a plane" or "let's take a credit to tour Italy".
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#50Currently living in Barcelona, where 'overtourism' is a much bigger problem than in Norway IMHO, it feels weird. You start passing bills on restricting tourism, then the natural next step is being hard on immigration, then Brexit. The ability to control who goes in and who goes out usually falls on the hand of those that shouldn't have that kind of power. Edit: Removed "At the risk of being downvoted" as some comment…
There have been a lot of reasons put forward to justify Brexit, this is the first time I’ve heard tourism used as an excuse.
It's a weird issue.