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Teslas Aren't the Future

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Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#31
He's suggesting e-bikes which won't go fast enough to get you where you're going, not to mention that there's very little infrastructure support for biking.

E-motorcyles maybe, but they're not comfortable at all.

MicroCars (they already exist in india: The Tata) are completely illegal in the US. There's so much regulation on car companies these days, there's very little room to innovate, especially with smaller cars which are pretty much illegal these days.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#32
post #11

Media outlets need to start hiring folks who live outside of a handful of trendy metro areas like New York, San Francisco, or DC (or in this case, Toronto). It's quite obvious that the author has not spent much time in the types of communities where most people actually live, nor does he seem to have much familiarity with the concept of child rearing. I'm not going to load my young children and 12 bags of groceries o…

Your kid should be in a booster by 5 or 6, and then they transition out of that between 8 and 12 (4’9”). Once they are in a booster, you can conceivably carry it around and use a ride share. See https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on... Buses and trains/trams don’t require child seats, so they can always be used. Some states also exempt taxis and passenger van services. Uber offered car seats in…

That's not true worldwide. Booster seats are illegal in Europe, you need a full car seat for children up to 35 kg.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your kid should be in a booster by 5 or 6, and then they transition out of that between 8 and 12 (4’9”). Once they are in a booster, you can conceivably carry it around and use a ride share. See https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on... Buses and trains/trams don’t require child seats, so they can always be used. Some states also exempt taxis and passenger van services. Uber offered car seats in…

That's not true worldwide. Booster seats are illegal in Europe, you need a full car seat for children up to 35 kg.

How does that work? Do you just have to buy a new special car seat that is safe for that weight? Convertibles only go up to 50 or so pounds, and those are for the European NUNAs.

Never mind. According to google, these are what we Americans call “high backed booster seats”.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#34
post #11

Media outlets need to start hiring folks who live outside of a handful of trendy metro areas like New York, San Francisco, or DC (or in this case, Toronto). It's quite obvious that the author has not spent much time in the types of communities where most people actually live, nor does he seem to have much familiarity with the concept of child rearing. I'm not going to load my young children and 12 bags of groceries o…

The secret is where you live. If you live in North America you are almost forced to use a car daily. If you live centrally in a small city with good infrastructure, then it's a different story, it gets doable even without Uber, micro scooters and carrying booster seats around.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#35
Am I the only one who prefers a car to shared trains/rideshare/walking? Knowing I have a portable climate controlled space when the weather isn't to my liking? Knowing I can conveniently leave things fairly securely near where I happen to be (if not at home)? Knowing that no-one has recently barfed in my car, or have to wonder: ugh, what's that stain on the seat? Not having to run my life around a transit schedule (or deal with a full or very crowded bus/train) is great. The freedom cars give is absolutely wonderful relief from these things that you encounter in the city.

Personally, I don't get pro-urbanization: it's crowded, loud, smelly, and for all that wondrous enjoyment (and more), crazy expensive. I like not being able to see/hear my neighbors and for them not to see/hear me. I like that my views are very pretty. I like that the noises I hear are nature, and not man/machines. I like that I get to spend more of my money on things other than rent (other things are cheaper in the 'burbs too). And to someone else's point -- I live in a city, but looking around, you'd never know it.

But maybe I'm just weird.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#36
People need cars for various reasons: trips to Home Depot to pick up home gardening gear, taking the kids and their friends to the movies, heading to the park to fly kites, traveling to the local university for graduate classes, travel for work that requires driving for hours to nearby cities. My family has done all of this, and none of it is convenient without a regular (gas or electric) car.

There may be some climates in the USA that allow year round commuting exposed to the elements, say San Diego, but in most of the country this isn’t practical. I’ve lived in places where it got to 13 degrees Fahrenheit below zero and in other places where it has been over 113 degrees above zero. Travel without the protection of a car for a couple of miles under these conditions is difficult.

For these reasons, people feel they need cars and once the sunken cost of such an investment is made it makes less sense to use public transportation or scooters. Someday, in the distant future, perhaps cities will have better, cleaner, safer, and more convenient public transportation and then the equation may change, but once you have a car in the garage already it’s often the easiest choice and having a Tesla might lessen the environmental impact.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roughly speaking, the average family has to have about 2 kids or more (to make up for people who choose not to have children). So the situation of having 2 kids is pretty typical.

The average is 1.9. You are supposed to space them out a bit, however. Also, 20%of all kids are only children, big cities one child is more common (Seattle its 47%).

That's the average per woman, not the average per family (which wouldn't include independent, childless single people).

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#38

Am I the only one who prefers a car to shared trains/rideshare/walking? Knowing I have a portable climate controlled space when the weather isn't to my liking? Knowing I can conveniently leave things fairly securely near where I happen to be (if not at home)? Knowing that no-one has recently barfed in my car, or have to wonder: ugh, what's that stain on the seat? Not having to run my life around a transit schedule (o…

uh, you may be missing the point. Few if any are against cars because the experience is poor. Absolutely the experience is individually superior. The point is that car usage is selfish, wasteful and generally worse for society as a whole.

in the west we are used to and loath to give up these comforts. personal cars, large suburban homes.. look at places that have modernized more recently, like in east Asia. Density, verticality, public transportation, these are the name of the game. Of course they would prefer to have their own cars and large homes, but the reality is that it's too inefficient for society to support.

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your kid should be in a booster by 5 or 6, and then they transition out of that between 8 and 12 (4’9”). Once they are in a booster, you can conceivably carry it around and use a ride share. See https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on... Buses and trains/trams don’t require child seats, so they can always be used. Some states also exempt taxis and passenger van services. Uber offered car seats in…

That's not true worldwide. Booster seats are illegal in Europe, you need a full car seat for children up to 35 kg.

Really? According to this [1], they are allowed after 18kg, and after 22kg, you can even just use a booster pillow.

[1] https://kindertravelguide.com/eu-car-seat-laws/

Re: Teslas Aren't the Future

#40
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your kid should be in a booster by 5 or 6, and then they transition out of that between 8 and 12 (4’9”). Once they are in a booster, you can conceivably carry it around and use a ride share. See https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on... Buses and trains/trams don’t require child seats, so they can always be used. Some states also exempt taxis and passenger van services. Uber offered car seats in…

I don't think it's practical to lug around 2 or 3 boosters. Possible, yes, but a terrible user experience.

You can - if the kids carry them. After about 5yo, sufficiently motivated/trained kids can do this.

It's still a pain.

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