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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by zeusk »

aguzzi94 wrote: post #863
lelima wrote: post #821

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> "Then we tried with 20 months one. Finally, accepted" The social pressure for having "an old phone" most have been incredibly high. Something like that happen to me on university, I had a 5 years old phone with no Whatsapp/Blackberry chat. It made me feel so left behind and even sad sometimes.

The cool thing now is that you can have a brand new 2019 phone with the latest tech for 300/400 euros. So if you want to keep the pace, you can do it without selling your soul. I think it's more about the temporary sense of worthiness that an Apple product can give you.

you can even get an iPhone 7/8 for reasonable price right now, if Apple is a requirement. I'm still on my 7 from late 2016 and will stick to it through this cycle as well.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by [deleted] »

Swizec wrote: post #334
jimbokun wrote: post #230

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"Pro" has been pretty useful, I think, as a marker in Apple's other product lines. "MacBook Pro" and "iPad Pro" are the ones you buy if you need it for work, because the increased price will pay for itself with increased productivity. But buy the "Air" or basic versions if you are primarily using it for more basic tasks and media consumption. Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though. I guess it…

Pro photographers that make bank by being instagram influencers will be all over the iPhone Pro. This will completely upend the vlogging industry too. I vlog with a DSLR and even with an iPhone X most people can’t tell when I use footage from that (running with a dslr is hard, for example). iPhone Pro likely makes better video than my T6i Rebel in many situations. Depth of field is usually where DSLRs shine

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by 127 »

rythie wrote: post #888
aguzzi94 wrote: post #792

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

Apple stuff lasts, this is not an Apple issue, any of those phones would have been good for several years. I'm only my 3rd iPhone in 9 years (soon to replace it though). Also 3rd iPad in 9 years. My Macbook Air is from 2012. Apple do software updates going quite far back. A lot of Apple's hardware looks exactly the same from generation to generation, so even if you updated, how would anyone know? If customers want to…

The phones from 2012 would still be perfectly functional if the software didn't come with increasingly ridiculous performance requirements. What's the reason for the upgrade? Camera?

With the ability to easily swap batteries, and more efficiently written software, nobody would have to really update their phones. Which is why I guess most batteries are now integrated.

It's a terribly waste just for corporate profits and peoples vanity's sake.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by lunchables »

aguzzi94 wrote: post #899
rythie wrote: post #888

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Apple stuff lasts, this is not an Apple issue, any of those phones would have been good for several years. I'm only my 3rd iPhone in 9 years (soon to replace it though). Also 3rd iPad in 9 years. My Macbook Air is from 2012. Apple do software updates going quite far back. A lot of Apple's hardware looks exactly the same from generation to generation, so even if you updated, how would anyone know? If customers want to…

What you said it totally true. But to say that Apple is not forcing is a white lie. It's true that they're not pointing guns at us, but they are smoothly pointing us in that direction. There's a psychological pressure to have the latest tech, otherwise not only your phone, but also you yourself, are outdated and uncool. No kind of manipulation was ever forceful. That's what makes it a manipulation. You think you're d…

>There's a psychological pressure to have the latest tech

You mean marketing? What company isn't doing that?

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Post by b3b0p »

aguzzi94 wrote: post #792

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

Here I am with an iPhone 6 still.

It plays music, like my iPod did. As well as podcasts. I don't use any apps otherwise that don't come with it from Apple. On the rare occasion someone decides to call me it answers, sometimes (it's slow to answer, but after 3 retries, sometimes the first).

I try to answer text messages on my Mac with Messages.app. It's easier to type.

Not sure I want to upgrade. I was planning on it. I can afford it. Kind of just trying to see how long I can keep it going for fun. I think I've had it for close to 5 years now.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by heartbreak »

marble-drink wrote: post #808
noneckbeard wrote: post #785

Does everyone here also drive a base model Honda Civic because “car hardware is done”? This is a luxury product and people upgrade because it’s fun and feels great to have the fastest phone and fanciest camera. It’s not that big a deal, and it’s definitely not a ripoff.

Personally I drive the top-spec Civic of 15 years ago. I would never own a current luxury item because I don't think it's worth spending my entire life working for a product that will become normal a couple of weeks after I buy it. Humans are only sensitive to change. A positive change feels good. No change feels normal. A negative change feels awful. A sensible person would try to fill their life with positive chang…

For what it’s worth, a 2019 base-model Civic includes a backup camera, automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-keep assist, road departure mitigation, more airbags, and every other safety improvement Honda engineers have come up with since 2004. It’s also more fuel efficient, which would reduce your consumption of fossil fuels.

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

moksly wrote: post #759
jayd16 wrote: post #732

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I find is pretty silly to say smartphone hardware is done when Apple is still sporting a notch.

I think the notch is a lot less annoying than the weight. Maybe I have small weak hands, but I feel a physical strain from using my iPhone XS. Unfortunately you can’t seem to buy a new SE around here.

Same for me! When I first bought it, I liked that it felt “premium”, but after using it for a while, I definitely have some strain in my wrist from the weight. Maybe it’s because it’s small enough to use one handed but too heavy to actually be comfortable. Have you tried a pop socket or something similar? (I have not) I’ll definitely be checking the weight of new phones from now on. I may even upgrade if the weight is less on any model. I would like to see something like the SE come out, because I want a phone that can do everything but is compact, but their solution seems to be the Apple Watch so you have a super small screen to accompany your phone instead of a smaller phone screen.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by pdnell »

avl999 wrote: post #803
noneckbeard wrote: post #785

Does everyone here also drive a base model Honda Civic because “car hardware is done”? This is a luxury product and people upgrade because it’s fun and feels great to have the fastest phone and fanciest camera. It’s not that big a deal, and it’s definitely not a ripoff.

> fastest phone Are folks running ML training algorithms on their phones? Why does one need the "fastest phone"? How many apps are there for which how fast your phone is even matters? I am not saying people shouldn't buy these phones but the pricing on these things is absolutely insane, it seems people are basically paying an Apple tax on these devices. Even high end devices from other manufacturers are not priced th…

You're absolutely correct that the prices of these phones are insane, but let's be honest here – a base-model Samsung Galaxy S10 is $899.99 MSRP. You can get them on Amazon for $699, which puts them at the same price as iPhone 11. So I'm not quite buying the Apple tax, unless your argument is that Apple is allowing everyone else to charge high prices, in which case you may be on to something.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by ubermonkey »

At our house, because I like new gadgets and my wife doesn't care, I have typically gotten a new phone every 2 years, and handed my old one to her to use for 2 more.

Then we fucked up the supply chain by breaking two phones in fairly quick succession. :( She's on a 6S, and I have an 8. Both are about 2 years old now.

I love to shift to FaceID on a X-style phone, and I'm a big amateur photographer, so holy crap the photo magic in the 11 Pro is SERIOUSLY tempting even though, at this point, there's absolutely nothing wrong with my 8 aside from the lack of FaceID.

Affording it isn't an issue. I've just finally gotten old enough that "new gadget" isn't quite the slam-dunk idea it once was. LOL. OTOH, reloading the supply line with staggered phones is probably not a terrible idea...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by alkonaut »

masklinn wrote: post #280
alkonaut wrote: post #56

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If you don’t want a camera upgrade every 2 years then there is zero reason to upgrade. But the camera upgrades alone are usually worth it.

> But the camera upgrades alone are usually worth it. That assumes you have any sort of use for the camera, otherwise it just makes the phone look freakier and freakier for no reason.

Yes that assumes you have use for the camera. Anyone who doesn’t really has no reason to read new phone launch press releases (since about 5 years ago). They are now cameras with other smart phone features tacked on. Incremental increases to cpu/memory/battery/storage but big improvements to picture quality (such as a full stop or two of sensitivity)
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