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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication).

Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos are shared would compress them anyways making them all nearly identical. Better frame rates is the only thing which makes a difference. Case in point : MKBHD made a blind test last year and low cost smartphone Mi Pocophone which scored pathetic camera performance in individual reviews came out top in the blind test.

So, the subscription services are the new lifeline for the hardware manufacturers; included free subscription should add some value to the new customers and if the SW services work; may be compensate for diminishing hardware sales.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by jayd16 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

I find is pretty silly to say smartphone hardware is done when Apple is still sporting a notch.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by drey08 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

> blind test

Well yes, all cameras look the same if you do a "blind" test. :)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by rutierut »

jayd16 wrote: post #732
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

I find is pretty silly to say smartphone hardware is done when Apple is still sporting a notch.

I get what you are saying but that would still be a pretty incremental update right? It wouldn't make the phone significantly more usable, really only a bit prettier.

I think the point here is that the recent "big" features are all pretty minor things like 60fps screens etcetera, they are really nice but nowhere near as important as the new things we used to have every generation.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

jayd16 wrote: post #732
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

I find is pretty silly to say smartphone hardware is done when Apple is still sporting a notch.

The parent is exaggerating but really, 90% of spotlight on these models is the new camera system but Huawei &co. was offering similar features for a long time.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by julianwachholz »

drey08 wrote: post #734
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

> blind test Well yes, all cameras look the same if you do a "blind" test. :)

out with you!

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by sjwright »

ryantgtg wrote: post #528
soneil wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "Pro" is just admitting that they're running into two tiers now. They released the 8 and the X together, they released the XR and XS together. The iphone has diverged into two products and hopefully they've picked a consistent name to differentiate them - because the difference between XR and XS isn't obvious at all.

“XS” seemed to me like a blunder of a name. First off, I don’t know anyone who calls the X iPhones “ten” - they call them “x”. And so XS looks and sounds like “extra small.” Without knowing anything about the X phones, I at first assumed that XR was the top of the line X phone. XR just... sounds like a better phone. I think they resolved this with the 11 line.

To me I couldn't help but read it as "excess", as in this phone is excessive.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by zaarn »

jimbokun wrote: post #230
neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

"Pro" has been pretty useful, I think, as a marker in Apple's other product lines. "MacBook Pro" and "iPad Pro" are the ones you buy if you need it for work, because the increased price will pay for itself with increased productivity. But buy the "Air" or basic versions if you are primarily using it for more basic tasks and media consumption. Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though. I guess it…

I don't think any professional photographers will give up their DSLRs or Mirrorless/System Cameras in favor of an image sensor smaller than their fingernails.
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