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Post by carapace »

inflatableDodo wrote: post #59
carapace wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you getting in a pissing contest about how many shitty things the US Government has done? Because, let me tell you, that is a contest you are going to lose. I consider myself a patriot, but I don't think that means I should be blind to the errors of my nation, my government. On the contrary, it's hard but important to look clearly at our mistakes, to learn from them and hopefully not repeat them.

>Are you getting in a pissing contest about how many shitty things the US Government has done? Because, let me tell you, that is a contest you are going to lose. Hi from the UK. I think we are still in the running. Mind you, we did have a head start.

Haha! Well met.

Although, IANAHistorian but I bet if you limited the accounting to no earlier than 1776 the UK looks better than the USA.

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Post by not_a_cop75 »

carapace wrote: post #58
not_a_cop75 wrote: post #57

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Are you getting in a pissing contest to figure out if the US government has done more wrong things than right things? Because if so, you are going to lose. Good luck practicing open and honestly blatantly hostile criticism of political figures in any other country. Even Europe has squashed things like memes to keep the public from realizing the truth. You're not a patriot. You are a wanna be. People are wrong and cor…

I am a patriot, as in I love this country and would, if called, give up my very life for it. God Bless America. One of the things I love about the US of A is our freedom of speech. We can talk openly about things like how our nation is founded on genocide and slavery, and being able and willing to do that is an essential part of overcoming our faults and atoning for our sins. What are we even arguing about? Whether t…

Brahma, do you know that india was founded on a caste system, part of which used children sexually for idol worship? Let's talk about how wonderful that system was before its reform!

Every single system that man has invented has relied on exchanges of goods and services. Anyone can call them exploitative, and some are. However, in America, you do have a choice. If you don't like it, you can run for a political position. You can start a non profit. You can start your own business. And if for whatever reason, you still can't stand it after all these choices have basically been handed to you, you can try living in a different nation where more or fewer of these things are available. No one in the US is going to threaten you, like in the former USSR or North Korea if you try to leave.

If all you want to do is whine, then have fun doing nothing good for your fellow man or yourself.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by not_a_cop75 »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #54
not_a_cop75 wrote: post #51

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So you point to one incident to prove everything that exists about a country must be wrong? How does that logically work? Was there corruption? Yes. Which government doesn't have corruption. Tell me if you know. Well, telling people to hate a country on the basis one one corrupt incident sounds suspiciously like IDF to me. If you think corruption is an issue, then why don't you do something about it, instead of whini…

"point to one incident" so I pointed out two things and clearly allude that if one does the research, you'll find many more than two things (Iranian revolution is an easy one). "telling people to hate a country" the word hate never appears once in my comment. Again, you seem to be "responding" to some generalization of a viewpoint you don't like instead of what is actually on your screen. No disrespect but I don't re…

No disrespect, but find another country the size of the USA that has as many things going decently for them. Yes, large governments breed corruption more easily. That seems to be a known at this point. That's why size plays into this.

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Post by not_a_cop75 »

carapace wrote: post #61
inflatableDodo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Are you getting in a pissing contest about how many shitty things the US Government has done? Because, let me tell you, that is a contest you are going to lose. Hi from the UK. I think we are still in the running. Mind you, we did have a head start.

Haha! Well met. Although, IANAHistorian but I bet if you limited the accounting to no earlier than 1776 the UK looks better than the USA.

Thanks for playing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtors%27_prison

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by alistproducer2 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #50
alistproducer2 wrote: post #45

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In order to be legitimately upset with our government having"shitty allies", you first need to believe in the fiction that our government isn't shitty itself. A quick browse through history should relieve of such a fantasy. In fact you don't need to look at history. The policy of illegal sanctions begun under the last administration, and now the illegal blockade of Venezuela (which is resulting in the deaths of many…

> In order to be legitimately upset with our government having"shitty allies", you first need to believe in the fiction that our government isn't shitty itself. No, you don't. You can be upset about our government being shitty, and hold the shitty allies it chooses to support as one of the many exhibits demonstrating the general shittiness of the government.

You're not wrong in that both things can be true at the same time.

I think the wording that more accurately describes my thoughts would be "... legitimately surprised."

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by patthebunny »

dang wrote: post #60
patthebunny wrote: post #12

Well that's nice. Totally makes up for a theocratic dictator having their father chopped up. I guess they have no choice but to just accept it, because of the same dictator. Can't believe this shitty government is our "ally". Fuck the Saudi Government.

Can you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebaity comments to HN? I'm afraid you've already done it a lot, and it's not what HN is for. As you'll see if you review the site guidelines, we're trying for something a bit better than internet default here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by patthebunny »

not_a_cop75 wrote: post #47
alistproducer2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order to be legitimately upset with our government having"shitty allies", you first need to believe in the fiction that our government isn't shitty itself. A quick browse through history should relieve of such a fantasy. In fact you don't need to look at history. The policy of illegal sanctions begun under the last administration, and now the illegal blockade of Venezuela (which is resulting in the deaths of many…

You should really define shitty. What you are saying is you don't particularly like a country without the ability to actually describe why that is. It's comes off feeling like someone's opinion of their favorite sports team. Certainly, the countries you like do things differently than the ones you want, but you won't even highlight those differences. No, instead it's only bad and good. I'm frankly tired of people tha…

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Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by patthebunny »

not_a_cop75 wrote: post #62
carapace wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a patriot, as in I love this country and would, if called, give up my very life for it. God Bless America. One of the things I love about the US of A is our freedom of speech. We can talk openly about things like how our nation is founded on genocide and slavery, and being able and willing to do that is an essential part of overcoming our faults and atoning for our sins. What are we even arguing about? Whether t…

Brahma, do you know that india was founded on a caste system, part of which used children sexually for idol worship? Let's talk about how wonderful that system was before its reform! Every single system that man has invented has relied on exchanges of goods and services. Anyone can call them exploitative, and some are. However, in America, you do have a choice. If you don't like it, you can run for a political positi…

An Indian leader said today (or yesterday, I’m on a transatlantic flight) that Brahmin are born superior.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by dang »

patthebunny wrote: post #66
dang wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebaity comments to HN? I'm afraid you've already done it a lot, and it's not what HN is for. As you'll see if you review the site guidelines, we're trying for something a bit better than internet default here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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