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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by derefr »

dmix wrote: post #253
endorphone wrote: post #166

These sorts of threads appear for every announcement. I chuckled seeing another user claim that it wasn't exciting because they didn't have something like Animojis to announce, that feature being a desperate "please try to buy this phone we're trying to justify this awkward face unlock thing". It's an incremental update that also brings huge new features to the "low priced" version. And it'll do great.

Yep, cell phones have reached peak feature-dom and this iPhone X style design is excellent. We don't need new fancy bells attached to it just for the sake of it. Just make it incrementally better and faster, without messing up what was good about it previously.

Just for the sake of it, no. For the sake of Apple continuing to have some differentiating feature to get people to line up to purchase in a way that keeps the iPhone trendy, yes. Otherwise it's just like any of the other 5000 smartphone models coming out each year, and then Apple's stock goes down.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by aetherspawn »

ryanSrich wrote: post #554
lucisferre wrote: post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

A few that I was hoping for: - a larger screen option. 6.5 isn’t enough - a mini pencil to use on that larger screen - some type of integrated headset or device to use the new iPhone as a VR/AR headset - Better battery life. I know they announced this, but the batteries need to be 10-100x better. I can’t use my phone all day without it dying. I should be able to use it for a week without dying Thought of a few more t…

An iPhone with removable handlebars that can transform into a PSP (with paddles, buttons and joysticks) and play games of similar quality to the Switch. The handlebars should be wireless so I can play games with my friends. I should be able to use Apple TV or screen mirror to transfer the games to the TV or to a projector or wireless to any display really.

My friends with regular iPhones should be able to stream the games I’m playing if I give them permission, and if we’re in the same room we should be able to play party games easily with less resource intensive (ie score displays or trivia questions or whatever) able to be displayed on their devices. Or they should be able to use their iPhones as 3rd or 4th or ... Nth touch screen virtual controllers for multiplayer.

Because it’s a phone, it has a touchscreen for super fast data entry of my online accounts or whatever, 4G and awesome cameras, gyro and accelerometer as well.

Now you have my attention.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by gnicholas »

selectodude wrote: post #312
krzyk wrote: post #161

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Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

I think anybody paying attention knew that next years model is where they’re adding 5G and a new design.

Wouldn't it have made more sense for them to redesign this year (kill the dreaded notch) and add 5G next year? That way they can capitalize on early adopters twice, not once.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by derefr »

matwood wrote: post #424
iamnotacrook wrote: post #309

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People say they expect more, but what, exactly? Do people still expect more from a laptop? They're laptops - they've not changed in 15 years. They just get faster, smaller and more easy to break. Phones have caught up. Nothings happening except more megapixels, plus slightly faster CPUs so..i dunno...snapchat loads faster or whatever, or more lenses or whatever, plus the sort of twilight zone $999 = £1049 pricing in…

> People say they expect more, but what, exactly? Agreed. At this point the iPhone is basically a slab of glass. The are not many form factor changes to be made except the further shrinking of bezels and the notch. They could swap the back materials or flatten the sides like the iPhone 4, but that's just change to change. IMO, +4 hours of batter life on the new Pro is a huge deal. Every person I know carries around p…

> At this point the iPhone is basically a slab of glass. The are not many form factor changes to be made except the further shrinking of bezels and the notch.

You're thinking of that backwards, I think. You don't change the hardware first. You come up with some new software (an OS feature; a library) that requires hardware that isn't already in the phone, and then redesign the phone to fit that new hardware in there. Like with the face sensors, or the ML-model-running cores. The hardware is designed, certainly, but it's designed as an answer to a constraint-satisfaction problem (i.e. a checklist of everything the new model needs to have/do), and big changes in the offered solution only happen when there are big changes in the constraints.

That being said, Apple seems to be lacking, lately, in inventing (or acquiring!) the kind of software features that necessitate new hardware. They're not even first to the Night Mode thing, which would totally have been one of their type of differentiators just a few years ago. Have they lost some critical software-R&D talent or something?

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Post by macintux »

tpmx wrote: post #469
vbezhenar wrote: post #355

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How do you train users about mouse right button?

By implementing it at the beginning of a UX paradigm cycle when the numbers of users are small, curious and in learning mode. Like how right-clicking was introduced when the number of Windows users was like 1/1000 of the number of the peak number of Windows users. You don't implement it during / after peaking of said cycle. That's some crazy level of delusion/arrogance. Turns out not even Apple can do pull that stunt…

And I’d wager a significant percentage of Windows users still don’t use it (or don’t understand when to use it).

And it’s vastly more discoverable than 3D Touch.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by ekanes »

lucisferre wrote: post #541
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

Most of the things you listed are evolutionary improvements rather than revolutionary improvements. None of them are radical bold new concepts.

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Post by noitsnot »

Zelphyr wrote: post #547
lucisferre wrote: post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

I honestly can't put my finger on it. All those features you listed are great but none of them make me WANT that device. I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe when I hold one in my hands that will change.

The rumored folding iPhone would have been the wow-factor even if Samsung failed already in their first attempt. I'm not sure how it makes sense for someone to ask people what they would have been looking for to make the announcement worthwhile. Are you hiring?

"People don’t know what they want until you show it to them." -Steve Jobs

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Post by sgarman »

lucisferre wrote: post #541
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.
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