This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.
iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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#162This is probably the least interesting new iPhone ever released.
Relatively, yes; cumulatively this is the most interesting iPhone ever.
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#163Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
People wouldn’t have booed. This is the same storage pricing as the previous two generations.
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#164Looks like the camera is their main selling proposition. For me, the camera is the reason why I do not consider buying an iPhone. Because it sticks out on the back. I don't know .. for me it's impossible to imagine using a phone that does not have a flat back.
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Apple seems to keep 128 GB in reserve till the model drops to the base of the lineup. For example, the iPhone 8 is now available w/128GB at $499. Before today, it was available w/256 GB at $749. The 64 GB model dropped in price by $150 from $599 to $449. Refurb pricing on the iPhone 8 is now $379 (64GB) / $509 (256 GB).
Because the 128 a sweet spot and most people don't have a need for more. The 64 size is just enough to push most intensive users over the hump and in to iCloud subscriptions. I'm sure Apple has all the analytics on how much space is being used by their users and how much iCloud subscriptions would take a hit with an 128 offering.
Whatever, this doesn't bother me so much about their phones. The non-upgradable storage in their laptops is a much bigger issue.
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#166It's an incremental update that also brings huge new features to the "low priced" version. And it'll do great.
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I'm just happy they dropped the stupid 'X' nomenclature. Now they need to rename Xcode to Apple Code or something...
Yeah, the X was confusing, but now the new iPhone 11 is not really the new iPhone 11. The iPhone 11 Pro is the new iPhone 11. Still confusing...
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#168Since it's quite obscure from the product page. Starting prices: - iPhone 11: $699 (64GB) - iPhone 11 Pro: $999 (64GB) - iPhone 11 Pro Max: $1099 (64GB)
$700 for the 11 is quite a good price for a phone that's going to last several years. The pixel 4 is going to have to come in at quite a good price to stop me from jumping ship to apple.
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Oh sure, I think everyone understands and expects this to some extent. But the Pro model should not have the same base storage as the non-Pro model. Especially with all the emphasis on the professional-level cameras on the iPhone Pro.
The sensors on the Pro model is still 12MPs. HEIC can compress the output of these sensors in an hard to imagine way. A movie takes around 60MB per minute in 1080p30. Photos are also somewhat negligible now.
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#170If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay.
I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing research information on how the "Pro" marketing term is received by their target consumers.
All that being said, I personally have never bought from Apple, and think the $150 upgrade cost is ridiculous (not to mention the $300 jump from the XR, which is still $300 more than I paid for my Pixel)! So I could say the "Pro" marketing isn't working on me! But overall, they aren't hurting for customers.