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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Apple knew it back in 2017 and as each year progresses it’s becoming increasingly clear we have exited the innovation phase and are well into the saturated/sustained phone market. We will never see an iPhone announcement quite like the first 5 and the X. Short of a form factor change, our phones will last longer and the new phone feature list will decrease year over year. Also - the Pros are thicker, heavier, and sli…

What specs are you looking at? Pro is slightly smaller and lighter.

11: 5.94 x 2.98 x 0.33 @ 6.84 ounces 11 Pro: 5.67 x 2.81 x 0.32 @ 6.63 ounces

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Theres also a crazy amount of enterprise purchases who dont care about storage. Everything is stored off device, and an MDM is keeping whats on the device to a minimum. Companies would still be buying 32GB by the truckfull if it was available. Apple was right to discontinue it because 32GB wasnt enough to run the OS anymore, while also being a usable phone. Since you cant run a phone without iOS, and stripping the OS…

Doesn't Apple support deleting builtin apps from the phone now?

You can remove the icons from the home screen, but it doesn’t actually delete the app from the device storage. They’ve said that’s in case you need or want one of the apps again; it’ll “reinstall” essentially instantly.

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You shouldn't fill an auditorium full of journos and tech bloggers to announce minor iterations of existing products.

It is quite aggressive of apple to physically force all those people to fill that auditorium against their will, isn't it

You're being dense. The attendees don't know ahead of time if they're going to have a major announcement or not.

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This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.

but this really was the least exciting iphone keynote ever, which was totally expected, but still disappointing. none of the more interesting rumors came about, like ultra-wideband positioning * and apple tags. apple product cycles have lengthened, so this was inevitably going to be a lower-the-base-price and harvest-the-late-adopters year for the notch model era. i think apple may even keep the same style next year…

2020 iPhone I've read a lot of buzz about being a pretty big release - e.g. https://sea.mashable.com/tech/6142/the-2020-iphone-already-s...

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The problem with keeping it in iCloud is how do you get it all out of iCloud? Say onto Linux, or into another cloud like Dropbox or Google Drive?

Alternately use Google photos w/ google drive subscription.

Which they removed a few months ago.

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Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…

There will always be lots of people disappointed in the iPhone. We will only know the magnitude of disappointment once financials are posted. Speaking of which, R&D spend shows they are making non-trivial investments. Apple secrecy is what keeps you and I seeing the R&D results before they are ready. "Signals" is not something Apple likes to give, which is probably why you aren't seeing any. I would argue that hardware+software integration is more important than 5G, underscreen fingerprint, or notchless design combined. Apple is the leader in deep integration across hardware and software. Services is just an extension of having a default out of the box experience for the most important experiences on an iPhone. Nothing new here. First it was "notes", "calculator", "stocks", etc. Now they are moving up the services stack to movies, gaming, etc. Next it will be Uber / delivery via Project Titan.

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People say they expect more, but what, exactly? Do people still expect more from a laptop? They're laptops - they've not changed in 15 years. They just get faster, smaller and more easy to break. Phones have caught up. Nothings happening except more megapixels, plus slightly faster CPUs so..i dunno...snapchat loads faster or whatever, or more lenses or whatever, plus the sort of twilight zone $999 = £1049 pricing in…

> plus the sort of twilight zone $999 = £1049 pricing in the UK I don’t know what the hell is going on here. Usually the lack of VAT in US prices explains weird conversions, but even factoring that in it comes to £970. Keeping it at £999 would be fine; to put it up by 50 quid is some serious bullshit.

It’s not just about exchange rate. The cost of doing business in Europe is generally higher than in the USA. Higher taxes, more consumer protections, more employee rights, cost of localization, smaller economies of scale, countless other differences... these all add up to Apple having higher costs in the UK.

It’s not just Apple. Take a look at how AWS prices vary by region for another tech example.

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Went to college in 2002 as the first cohort through a newly created "digital imaging technology" program. I failed an assignment because I wrote about how SSD would become standard over HDD, something "incredibly unlikely" - I wonder how my professors feel today.

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Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

This storage hasn't changed for almost a decade now, I'd expect 64GB to have been canned well before something like, say, the headphone jack. Even 128GB is quite low these days.

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That camera cluster gives me trypophobia vibes. I feel like some sort of robot insect monster is going to hatch and take over my brain. (and/or this iPhone is an infant robot overlord) Another iteration of "why bother" gadgets which is definitely cool but do we all really need one? I expect the fad to break in the next decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

Judging from other responses here I am in the minority, but I like the camera bump design. The triangular geometry makes sense if you want to have all sensors equidistant to a central point. This also may result in some simplifications (or even optimizations) in sensor fusion algorithms. Putting three cameras in a line makes less sense to me.

I don't think we're arguing the functionality of the design; this is purely based on the phone's aesthetics. (And, for those of us with trypophobia, our opinion on the design is likely due to a deeply rooted instinctual and evolutionary reaction.)
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