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There's a large cultural difference here, and from my experience, Germany is the exact antithesis of American brand culture. In America, among many groups of people, brands are social signaling on how important/wealthy you are. It only tapers off a bit at higher incomes (>1M+). Below that, it's rampant.

I don' t think that's the right income cutoff at all. In my experience the brand signaling occurs in the poor-lower-middle class regions, then stops from there all the way up to the new money but no taste crowd. Rap stars, etc. I don't know anyone in the HN/SoftwareDev income range who loves to show off brands, with occasionally some cars as maybe the exception. Though I will say Nike shoes tend to be an exception ac…

These comments are kind of hilarious when the average software engineer’s wardrobe consists almost entirely of tech company t-shirts/hoodies with giant logos on them :D

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

Nope. I will keep using my Pebble. Whilst it still works.

I just can't get past the 18ish hours battery.

I know when I possible eventually actually own and use an Apple Watch, I am sure some of the features trigger the "once you go x you can't go back" type thing, but until then, nope.

Though my Pebble is, unfortunately, starting to creak a little, some notifications are not always shown etc, so a Fitbit may be more likely upgrade. They at least have 5 days battery.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

I can stream Spotify offline on my Garmin watch. It’s a game-changer going back to the days of bringing nothing but my watch (and Bluetooth headphones) with me to runs and the gym. Battery life is also several times longer than any Apple Watch generation and the sensors much more accurate and versatile. They claim 2 weeks in smartwatch mode for the Forerunner 945.

But a lot of times the decision to buy a watch is fashion-driven rather than utility-driven, and depending on what city you live in, either high-tech fitness watches are everywhere, or anything other than an Apple Watch gets you a dirty look.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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post #253

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

Nope. I will keep using my Pebble. Whilst it still works. I just can't get past the 18ish hours battery. I know when I possible eventually actually own and use an Apple Watch, I am sure some of the features trigger the "once you go x you can't go back" type thing, but until then, nope. Though my Pebble is, unfortunately, starting to creak a little, some notifications are not always shown etc, so a Fitbit may be more…

I'm wearing a Fitbit Versa (whose lineage is from Pebble) and as bad as I want to go back to WearOS or jump ship from phone platforms and get an Apple Watch, you can't beat 5 days of battery life.

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18 hours is a practical level for smart watch battery. That way users will recharge it every night and never run out during the day. 24 hours means that people will sleep with it and forget to charge in the morning -> annoyed users. 36 hours would require charging every other night, but then you'd miss every other night's sleep tracking -> annoyed users. There's really no way for Apple to win, unless they jump up to…

There are a lot of people who sleep with Apple watches already, since there are a handful of 3rd party sleep tracking apps. Plus, the silent alarm that taps on your wrist is really nice. You don't need to charge it for that long, 15-20 minutes before bed and in the morning is plenty.

Does the Apple Watch do native sleep tracking or do you need a 3rd-party app?

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Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

You can stream Apple Music over WiFi/cellular without the phone. Not sure if that will include Spotify at some point but I do know the new watchOS has opened up a lot of those APIs.

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/iOS-Apple-Watch-...

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

18 hours is a practical level for smart watch battery. That way users will recharge it every night and never run out during the day. 24 hours means that people will sleep with it and forget to charge in the morning -> annoyed users. 36 hours would require charging every other night, but then you'd miss every other night's sleep tracking -> annoyed users. There's really no way for Apple to win, unless they jump up to…

Honestly, all I want is something that I can put on charge once during the day, for 30 minutes while showering, and have it last until the following nights shower. I want it to track sleep, and monitor health. That's it at least. My Fitbit Versa works perfectly for this, and hey, it has a bonus that if I forget to charge it one night or over a weekend, it still lasts! No interrupted heartrate monitoring or sleep tracking.

I was really hoping Apple would step up their Apple Watch game this year, with a longer battery and native sleep tracking -- that's all I want. Personally, I don't really care about being able to answer calls from a watch when I have my phone on me 24/7. Time to wait another year I guess and keep using my Versa :-)

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

I got one of these guys (Garmin fenix 5x plus) for that very reason: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/603229 It's the only watch (or was at the time) that has an independent Spotify app.

I use the Garmin Forerunner 945 that has this functionality now too.
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