Apple Watch Series 5 • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by drinchev » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:14 PM UTC

the_watcher wrote: post #16

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

My Apple Watch ( Series 1 ) is still alive and working quite well. It lasts for 8-9 hours if I don't use the heart rate monitor, while doing sports. I think at this point I could say that my Apple Watch is not "all-day" battery life.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by esemor » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:14 PM UTC

ashelmire wrote: post #25

Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

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Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:14 PM UTC

victorvation wrote: post #22

the_watcher wrote: post #16

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

"Wake to Sleep" seems to be the generally accepted definition, i.e. you won't have to charge it during the day during normal usage. How long you're awake for can vary though, I've seen anything from 8 hours to 20 hours of battery life be referred to as "all day".

Clearly this means they don't intend Apple Watch to pick up sleep tracking though. My Fitbit needs to last a few days because there's only a couple chances I really take it off to charge.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by totalthrowaway » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:14 PM UTC

ashelmire wrote: post #25

Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

It isn't perfect, but the Mighty (bemighty.com) is basically an iPod Shuffle that you can download Spotify offline playlists to. It filled that niche for me.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by wlesieutre » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:15 PM UTC

GordonS wrote: post #24

the_watcher wrote: post #16

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

I quite like the idea of a smart watch, but having to charge it every day is much less appealing.

I keep a charger on my desk at work and if I remember I top it up sometime in the afternoon, if not I charge it in the evening.

I do miss the week long battery from my Pebble Time, but having to charge it daily hasn't been a real problem. The main nuisance is needing to bring the proprietary charger when I travel for a couple days.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by slg » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:15 PM UTC

the_watcher wrote: post #16

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

I think all day depends on the specific device. For example, I would accept a 10 hr battery life for a laptop or wireless headphones as "all-day" because that will cover a full work day and people aren't expected to use those devices 24/7. 18 hours for "all-day" on a wearable seems reasonable if the expectation is that it will be used only when the user is awake. A complicating factor is that Watch OS 6 is supposed to include sleep tracking. Making that functionality native would seem to recommend wearing the watch 24/7 in a way that wasn't encouraged when that was handled by 3rd party apps. In my opinion, that changes the definition of "all-day" for this device.

EDIT: I am just catching up on all the announcements, while it was expected in the lead up to today[1] there was no talk of native sleep tracking during the event. I wonder if it will be rolled out quietly so Apple could have plausible deniability on 24/7 usage being "recommended" or if they decided to completely scrap it due to battery performance issues.

[1] - https://9to5mac.com/2019/09/02/apple-watch-sleep-tracking-re...

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by bobbylarrybobby » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:16 PM UTC

computerhouse12 wrote: post #39

tdoggette wrote: post #2

I like the compass! It's nerdy, but I like to carry one when navigating an unknown city, and I find it very helpful.

Don't you already have a compass in your phone?

Most of the Apple Watch features and apps are in the phone. Still nice to have them on your wrist.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by 40acres » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:16 PM UTC

Perhaps it's naive of me to think that Apple will ever detach the Watch from the Phone and allow set up and full use cases for users who don't have an iPhone. I'd definitely buy a cellular enabled Apple Watch and ditch my phone if possible.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by johnborkowski » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:16 PM UTC

ashelmire wrote: post #25

Only reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.

I got one of these guys (Garmin fenix 5x plus) for that very reason:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/603229

It's the only watch (or was at the time) that has an independent Spotify app.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by dsalzman » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:16 PM UTC

tdoggette wrote: post #2

I like the compass! It's nerdy, but I like to carry one when navigating an unknown city, and I find it very helpful.

I wonder how they solved adding the magnetometer without interference with the magnets used for the charging cable?