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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by violinist »

TylerE wrote: post #77
dpflan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon... ) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.

The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width.

I moved straight from an SE to a iPhone X - it's substantially larger. https://phonesized.com/compare/#632,900

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by TacticalTable »

labster wrote: post #86

My work bought me an "upgrade" to the XR, as my SE is starting to show some battery issues. But after a day of playing with the XR, I put it back in the box to send back to Apple. Compared to the SE, the XR is 50% heavier -- even without a case. It doesn't have a good edge to hold onto being so thin, so it makes you want to hold on by the front. But every corner of the front of the device is a UI element that you can…

> EDGE is a little slow

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe EDGE has been disabled across a lot of the US.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by sramsay »

dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

A thousand times this. My absolute number one requirement (after things like, um, the ability to make phone calls) is that it fit in my front-left pocket. I didn't upgrade to the last model for this reason and no other.

But I can only assume that Apple does plenty of market research on their products, so I assume people aren't checking off "the thing is too damn big" under "reasons I didn't upgrade?"

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by sp332 »

dpflan wrote: post #64
TylerE wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they could make a high res. screen that essentially is the entire front of the phone So, an Iphone X?

Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon... ) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.

The bezels are completely different, so comparing screen sizes is misleading. The outer dimensions of the iPhone X are 5.65 x 2.79 inches, iPhone SE is 4.87 x 2.31 inches. That's 0.78 inches taller and 0.48 inches wider.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by tfehring »

mehrdada wrote: post #25

Keeping SE supported fragments iOS market and burden the developers. iPhone 8 is now the low-cost iPhone roughly at SE price point with a screen size that you kind of have to support anyway.

It's form factor too, not just price point. The form factor is the only reason I switched from Android, and I'd happily pay the full iPhone 11 price for a phone the size of an SE with iPhone 11 internals.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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rsynnott wrote: post #72
ebiester wrote: post #68

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https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2013/02/how-do-users-r... People with smaller hands, regardless of gender, often use two hands. Once you're used to using two hands, there's no reason to have a smaller screen.

Except, say, using the phone on a crowded bus or train or any of the many other scenarios where it's inconvenient to use two hands. I've no interest in anything bigger than a 7/8, myself. An XS might be borderline okay.

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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by RandomBacon »

js2 wrote: post #35
bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

They still make the iPod touch. It even has an A10 in it. The 128 GB model is $299. The 128 GB iPhone 8 is $499 with an A11. They don't have to sell a new iPhone SE for less for $499. I'd pay that for it. Small is a premium. But would selling it at $399 really kill their margins? Edit: the iPhone 8 64GB refurb pricing is now $379. That's a pretty good deal: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/FQ6K2LL/A/Refurbished-iPh…

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch?

You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected).

It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack!

spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by SpikedCola »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

> in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece

Glad to hear someone else shares this opinion! Still rocking an iPhone4 here.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by bangonkeyboard »

dijit wrote: post #71
bangonkeyboard wrote: post #63

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> (also, I wonder how women get on, since generally they have smaller hands than men.) The women around me adopted larger phones earlier, because they had purses to carry them in.

Maybe, but I have a mix, my partner has a large phone and carries a backpack(!?) with her everywhere, but her closest friend has an iPhone 5 (which she doesn't update the OS on because "it will get slower"). So in my circles it's already 50/50. But I do see iPhone 5's and SE's amongst my circles more commonly than I should given the age of the phone. I'm not 100% on why, though I often ask. And it's incredibly rare t…

> …her closest friend has an iPhone 5 (which she doesn't update the OS on because "it will get slower").

If her iPhone 5 is still running iOS 6, she is correct.

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