Bring Back the SE • Hacker News Board

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Apocryphon » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:46 PM UTC

033803throwaway wrote: post #4

Or someone, anyone, make a functional clone of it. I don't care much which OS I have to run, they are all the same now. I just want a smart phone that fits in a single hand. I tried the palm and it is a bit too small, and the battery life was insanely bad.

> I don't care much which OS I have to run

Maybe Purism could think about making a Librem 4 after the 5 releases. Double-down on the hacker-hobbyist niche.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by cydonian_monk » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:46 PM UTC

I'll chime in as another iPhone SE supporter. I'm still rocking mine, which itself replaced a four year old iPhone 5. Best form factor of any such device I've ever owned. I replaced the battery in both after two years, as the iPhone 5 one was completely shot and the one in my SE was not doing well (and at whatever Apple considers 75%). Otherwise both have been near bulletproof.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by kgwgk » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:46 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

If they can make money selling a $450 iPhone 8 they can surely make money selling the SE. If they made money selling it in 2017 why wouldn't they make money in 2019?

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ryacko » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:47 PM UTC

I’ll repost an old comment: I’d like an iPod Touch with cellular.

Until then, I’ll keep my iPhone SE and disable JavaScript.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by mehrdada » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

Keeping SE supported fragments iOS market and burden the developers. iPhone 8 is now the low-cost iPhone roughly at SE price point with a screen size that you kind of have to support anyway.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by marceldegraaf » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

Apocryphon wrote: post #17

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

Pretty insane that the most profitable company in the (history of the?) world is so risk adverse so as to obsess about margins.

Off topic but I think that would be the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie or V.O.C.)

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by benologist » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

Sometimes I use my SE to listen to music without headphones and it amazes me compared to the garbage speakers in my monitors.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by als0 » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

> it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling).

I might be wrong, but I recall that even though the SE had technically inferior components, including display, it seemed it had _better_ battery life than the latest iPhones of the time. I believe the latest was the iPhone 6 at the time. Presumably OLED might have changed this?

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

Anyone else having connection problems with AVC.com? I couldn't find an archive link.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by iamnotacrook » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:49 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #12

ruffrey wrote: post #5

I won't upgrade from this old used SE until some phone manufacturer produces a working phone that will fit in a pocket. It boggles the mind. I tried the Jelly Pro, which ran Slack and a handful of critical apps, but the battery life was only a few hours.

How small are your pockets? I have an iPhone X and it fits just fine.

Yeah, Honor Play was £260 or something, 6.3" but fits in all my pockets and has almost the power of a flagship. How small are these people's pockets, and how do you, I dunno, play chess or read articles or check out how your photo turned out?