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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Since Apple normally releases new iPhones in June, does this mean the Verizon iPhone 4 will be obsolete in less than 6 months? It will be lame if Verizon has the iPhone 4 and then AT&T gets a new GSM-only iPhone 5 in June.

My guess is iPhone 5 will support both GSM and LTE in one hardware. It will look similar to iPhone 4 and and both CDMA iPhone4 and iPhone5 will be available on Verizon, just like iPhone 3GS is still selling.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

I'm honestly confused why the opportunity to pre-order is considered a perk.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

Independently of the inability to roam in GSM 2G, you may still be able to roam on foreign 3G networks. For 3G, CDMA seems to be ubiquitous, it's mainly a question of at least one of the frequency bands supported by the phone being used in the destination country.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) Wow, this reminds me of being on dial-up in the 1990s.

The CDMA Development Group announced provisions for SVDO, or Simultaneous 1x Voice and EV-DO Data in 2009, but there hasn't been much news on it since. My guess is that Verizon will just continue upgrading its network for LTE instead of making this interim upgrade.

They stated at CES that they'll bring simultaneous voice and data; I'm assuming that's SVDO but perhaps they're doing it some other way.

From Q&A at CES:

"Q: What about simultaneous voice and data? A: Some devices will. Q: Just some devices, not all? A: Not ready to comment at this point."

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#85

One thing is a huge surprise here: wifi hotspot. If you follow Gruber, he's made the point that Apple doesn't consider this a new device, and that Apple will probably sell it as the exact same device to customers. This is one significant area where it's not, though - if you buy an iPhone on Verizon, you get this feature. If you buy one on AT&T, you don't. Apple to date has stood pretty firmly against the idea of carr…

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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#86

"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#87
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could someone please explain how this hotspot feature usually works for smartphones? I'm having a discussion with a friend about this, but we're going nowhere since I don't own a smartphone and thus I'm not really sure what's the default here and how this iPhone does things differently. [edit] what I expect is this: if I'm connected to a wifi hotspot to browse the Internet and I receive a telephone call, I should not…

"You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot" means that you can use the phone to broadcast a WiFi signal for nearby computers/devices to use to access the Internet. The phone acts as a WiFi access point, using the cellular network to relay the devices connected to it to the Internet.

Yeah, this is ok, but how does this iPhone behave differently than the usual here? Do the other phones (when acting as hotspot) keep broadcasting the WiFi signal when receiving data over the cellular network?

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

No I don't think so. Everwhere else on the world is GSM. That confused me when I first read about USA mobile phones, I wondered what this CDMA thing was.

While it seems not technically right, e.g. CDMA seems to be used here and there around the world, I am reassured in my opinion that if you intend to use your cell phone/modem not exclusively on your home operator's network, you'd better stick to GSM.

Thanks for your links, retroafroman and dboyd! That's exactly what I needed.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#89
In my opinion, this will either slash the current price of Android phones or slow down Android growth considerably.

I just can't help but to think, if I were a non-geek consumer, and it was the same price to walk out of the store with an iPhone over a Droid - I know I'd choose iPhone.

Does the Droid have a silver-bullet marketing point that I'm missing, or is it all over for Android?

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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post #50

"Verizon's CDMA network doesn't support simultaneous voice and data as with the GSM version" This is probably a deal killer for me. I do this quite frequently. I also remember on the old edge network data activity sometimes sent callers to voicemail, which is unacceptable. Hopefully Verizon does not have that issue as well. My biggest hope is that competition forces AT&T to be less ridiculous about data pricing for p…

I had noticed this on my Verizon phone but didn't realize there was a technical reason. It's pretty annoying to be waiting on hold, and not being able to fribble on the internet in the meantime!
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