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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by stevenbedrick »

listic wrote: post #22
TomOfTTB wrote: post #4

Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but Verizon does offer international roaming in a few places (Mexico, etc.). It's nowhere near as good as AT&T's international roaming, but, as other commenters have posted, GSM is far more prevalent outside the US than CDMA.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by retroafroman »

rmc wrote: post #31
listic wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

No I don't think so. Everwhere else on the world is GSM. That confused me when I first read about USA mobile phones, I wondered what this CDMA thing was.

There are GSM networks in the rest of the world yes, but that is not the only technology outside the US. There are CDMA networks in other countries as well. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#Other_Regi...

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#43

Post by tortilla »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

Maybe you're using the hotspot (downloading something, streaming, skype) and you get a call.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by lusis »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

Actually it's one limitation about CDMA that I hate. I would love to use one of the reverse lookup apps to get details about unknown callers but I can't because the operation of receiving the call means it can't simultaneously do the lookup.

I also hate having some sync operation get stopped because I get a call.

It's more annoying than you think but not a total deal breaker.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by haribilalic »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

I've often gone through the steps of saying "hold on" while on a call and launching Safari, Mail or some other app to check something that was being discussed (e.g. "Did you get my email?" "Not yet, I'll check now").

It'd be worse if you're using it as a hotspot and you're sharing the hotspot with other people.

It's not essential, but it's not useless either.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#47

Post by bluegene »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

Let's say you have 5 people connected to your phone's wireless hotspot and a call comes, everyone lose their connectivity

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by modoc »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

I use it all the time. I'll often be on the phone (using a headset) and pull up information online, or send out an e-mail to someone on the con-call, or pull up a new document in DropBox, or.....

Add in using it a Wifi hotspot, and getting your VPN connection/download/SSH session/whatever interrupted every time your phone rings would be REALLY annoying.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#49

Post by shennyg »

listic wrote: post #22
TomOfTTB wrote: post #4

Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

US based sprint uses CDMA.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#50

Post by aneth »

"Verizon's CDMA network doesn't support simultaneous voice and data as with the GSM version"

This is probably a deal killer for me. I do this quite frequently. I also remember on the old edge network data activity sometimes sent callers to voicemail, which is unacceptable. Hopefully Verizon does not have that issue as well.

My biggest hope is that competition forces AT&T to be less ridiculous about data pricing for people with multiple devices, tethering, hotspots, etc.

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