What really pisses me off is not validating on it, so my too-long password is happily accepted, and I have no idea what it is except that it's some prefix of the one I saved.
Sites with dumb password rules
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#13I guess the password is being used in a query template? Seems like a very bad idea.
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#14Must not include more than 2 identical characters (for example: 111 or aaa)
Must not include more than 2 consecutive characters (for example: 123 or abc)
First, they apparently mean repeating and not identical characters.
But more importantly, perfectly random character strings frequently contain repeating and consecutive characters, so this rule must reduce the entropy of passwords.
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Edit - Just simulated this for 10 million 12-character passwords randomly generated from the 90 characters Chase allows.
Turns out the repeating and consecutive rules would invalidate about 0.3% of purely random passwords.
A negligible reduction in entropy is certainly more than offset by preventing passwords like aBc123456789.
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#15It would be nice if there was a HTML standard for specifying password requirement data, like length ranges, valid/invalid characters, character type requirements(3 letters, 1 number, 1 special character), etc, so that password managers/generators could use it to always create a valid secure, valid password for you.
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#16Chase Bank: Must not include more than 2 identical characters (for example: 111 or aaa) Must not include more than 2 consecutive characters (for example: 123 or abc) First, they apparently mean repeating and not identical characters. But more importantly, perfectly random character strings frequently contain repeating and consecutive characters, so this rule must reduce the entropy of passwords. ------ Edit - Just si…
Re: Sites with dumb password rules
#17Chase Bank: Must not include more than 2 identical characters (for example: 111 or aaa) Must not include more than 2 consecutive characters (for example: 123 or abc) First, they apparently mean repeating and not identical characters. But more importantly, perfectly random character strings frequently contain repeating and consecutive characters, so this rule must reduce the entropy of passwords. ------ Edit - Just si…
doesn't any rule decrease password entropy?
Something like minimum characters pushes towards a more ideal entropic state for example, rather than limiting the ideal entropic state.
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#18You can always trust State Bank of India to pick the worst possible process and phrase. WTF is hacking characters ?
> WTF is hacking characters Basically anything a scripting programming language might use as a comment or sigil. Putting 'we are probably calling exec() on your password' into writing though is a boneheaded move.
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#20Honestly, I'm past caring about upper length limits, however stupid they are. What really pisses me off is not validating on it, so my too-long password is happily accepted, and I have no idea what it is except that it's some prefix of the one I saved.
Good security dictates a minimum length, and practical avoidance of your login form being a denial of service... well, that dictates a maximum length too. It can be quite long, but you generally should not allow bot makers to instruct your login handler to actually hash the entire declaration of independence, repeatedly.
(Edit: I should clarify, by "reasonable" I'm talking like, 200 character or more reasonable. These sites with 20 character maximums make me cringe. Also the computational complexity can be mitigated in other ways, like sensible rate limiting.)