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Re: Android 10

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Post by jyrkesh »

JohnFen wrote: post #142
bsamuels wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as dumb as it sounds, nobody likes to be a green bubble

> nobody likes to be a green bubble Lots of people don't care at all. The only time I hear about this whole "green bubble bad" thing is online. In real life, I have never once encountered this sentiment. (I'm not saying this sentiment doesn't exist IRL, I'm saying that it's not universal.)

Eh, don't want to make any assumptions on your age, but I'm young enough that iPhones were introduced around when I was in middle/high school. Here in the US, living in an upper-middle class area, lots of kids got them right off the bat.

I've never had anyone SERIOUSLY be mad about me being the green bubble, but when you're doing large group text coordination and someone drops me in, then starts doing tapbacks and sending rich media, I get some shit. And it gets thrown out as a joke in general conversation all the time. "Oh, he's a GREEN bubble..."

Re: Android 10

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Post by chronogram »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #206

I recently bought a Nokia 2.2, which in in the Android One program. Two main reasons: a removable battery and OS updates for two years and security for 3. At this point, there's very little difference between the hardware of flagships and commodity, especially considering the real-world use of smartphones. I mean, is anyone compiling programs on these things or doing anything particularly intensive? Not really. So gi…

https://i.ibb.co/DK0SB5h/Android-One-Removable-Battery.png

Wow that's really not a lot of phones (just 1) available with Android One and a removable battery.

Re: Android 10

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Post by shuckles »

kbenson wrote: post #483
shuckles wrote: post #479

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It seems like in your original post, you were saying that iPhone was not a good value. Yet the A series chips consistently outperform Snapdragon by years, and software support for iPhone probably means a years old model has more official life than a latest Android. I don’t think the reply was suggesting you get a new phone specifically. They were responding to your claim that iPhone is on face not a good value.

No, I wasn't saying it's not a good value. I was saying it's a ridiculous thing to ask of someone that may have a completely serviceable phone that might even be brand new. It's like telling someone to buy a Mercedes or Volvo. It may be a very good product, but that doesn't mean there's not a lot of assumptions in any recommendation to buy one, especially if it doesn't consider the quality, cost or age of your curren…

Except in this case you can buy iPhone for $450 which is less than the OnePlus6 in my locale. SOCs compare favorably between the two devices. I guess I’m not seeing why iPhone is akin to a luxury car brand.

Re: Android 10

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Post by batatati »

rvz wrote: post #30

> With Android 10, you’re in control of your privacy. With privacy being the latest buzzword in the tech industry and all this news about privacy blunders I keep seeing, For Google to market something like this for Android makes you wonder what other nefarious features that have been added to Android that they didn't tell you about. In terms of privacy, Android 10 instead screams "Upgrade and lose control of your pri…

Entirely agree. We should educate people that privacy is not something a company can "add" to a product or to an ad like Apple and Google claim. Privacy is not just a "feature", this is whole culture, ideological and technological commitment (and sacrifices and extra challenges) you have to do (like at Purism, Mozilla, GNU, etc.) not some marketing buzzword strategy to put on ads to make more sells.

Privacy is not something you can claim, it is something you must prove through 100% full stack open source code and reproducible builds.

Re: Android 10

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Post by JohnFen »

razorunreal wrote: post #388
JohnFen wrote: post #148

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> strongly suggests that they intend to eliminate the semi-"hard" buttons in favor of gestures. If that happens, that's an OS that is unacceptable to me. It's bad enough that physical buttons were eliminated in favor of the soft buttons. That bothers me to this day, but I learned to live with it. Eliminating even the horrible soft buttons, though, would be a bridge too far in terms of reducing usability.

It's a setting, you can keep the soft buttons if you like.

Good to know, but that does rather sound like they're on the chopping block...

Re: Android 10

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Post by JohnFen »

jyrkesh wrote: post #491
JohnFen wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nobody likes to be a green bubble Lots of people don't care at all. The only time I hear about this whole "green bubble bad" thing is online. In real life, I have never once encountered this sentiment. (I'm not saying this sentiment doesn't exist IRL, I'm saying that it's not universal.)

Eh, don't want to make any assumptions on your age, but I'm young enough that iPhones were introduced around when I was in middle/high school. Here in the US, living in an upper-middle class area, lots of kids got them right off the bat. I've never had anyone SERIOUSLY be mad about me being the green bubble, but when you're doing large group text coordination and someone drops me in, then starts doing tapbacks and se…

> Here in the US, living in an upper-middle class area, lots of kids got them right off the bat.

I'm sure that correct, but how common iPhones are, even amongst your age group, greatly depends on where in the US you are. In my area, iPhones are not nearly as common as they are in other areas, and there is generally little peer pressure in the grade/high schools to have them. Having a smartphone generally is expected, but few people care about whether or not it's an iPhone.

Re: Android 10

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Post by JohnFen »

wuliwong wrote: post #162
JohnFen wrote: post #140

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> the social pressure (in the US at least) is insane. This isn't a US-wide thing. This is about the priorities of a certain subculture, nothing more. Your friends just happen to be embedded in that subculture. My condolences.

The subculture of people who have iPhones? As much as Apple would want this to be, I don't believe there is a cohesive subculture that describes all iPhone users.

No, the subculture isn't "all people who have iPhones". It's a specific subset of people who have iPhones.

Re: Android 10

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Post by derrikcurran »

nudpiedo wrote: post #467
derrikcurran wrote: post #384

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> I doubt anyone wants to read white text on a black background. I do! Much less eye strain and easier to read for me. In fact, I read your comment in white text on a black background. My eyes are very sensitive to light in general though.

I hope you know that black color light doesn’t mean less light.

* "black color light" does not exist. Light cannot be black.

* Each pixel in an LCD has 3 subpixels (red, green, blue). There is a light source behind the pixels. To display black, white, or anything in between (gray), all 3 subpixels allow an equal amount of light through. What controls the shade is the amount of light allowed through each. For black, the lowest possible amount of light is allowed through.

* On an OLED display, like the one in my phone, each pixel emits its own light and can be controlled independently. A black pixel on an OLED display emits practically 0 light and even uses less power as a result. This is why blacks look way better on OLED displays.

* See for yourself. Use your phone in a dark room and fill the screen with white only and then try again with black.

* You know how black absorbs light and white reflects light? Black does not absorb light because it is black. It's black because it absorbs light.

Re: Android 10

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Post by 29083011397778 »

penagwin wrote: post #475
mrguyorama wrote: post #473

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The phone originally sold for $400. Is that really not enough money to fund software development for 4 years or more?

And more to your point - The iPhone 7 is currently 450$ brand new and is nearly 3 years old. Not only has it received feature updates for those 3 years, but all it's predecessors down to the 5S have been receiving feature updates (ends this year unfortunately) - we should be able to expect the iPhone 7 to at least get another year or two of feature updates.

The 5X started out at $400. The iPhone 7 is not only still more expensive, but it started out far above the 5X's retail price.
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