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There is a reason they didn't. They fear the US government's reaction. Edit: Why downvote? Do you really think that the US government will stay silent if the European Union threatens with such fines? Political tensions are something you take heavily into account.
EU should ignore the fines this time and start an "information campaign" regarding behavior of Google and others. I bet that hurts Google 10 times more.
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The whole intention of this clickbait article by Brave, without any technical details, is to sell it's browser.
Did you even read the article?
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Are you a lawyer? Because this take is quite remarkable, especially given that the overwhelming public sentiment is that McDonalds was heinously negligent, coupled with a lot of supporting but not entirely factual claims to justify that position. I feel like the same people who were jeering at the victim just marched over to sainting her and demonizing McDonalds. The Internet extreme position machine. Everything has…
Normally coffee is not brewed on boiling water, and losses a lot of heat during the brewing process. So, McDonalds' coffee (and the ones on many more stores) is significantly hotter than normal coffee. But recently brewed coffee is dangerous anyway, it's quite stupid to hold it with one's legs. Still, I don't know about the details, and even the defamation she suffered might be enough for the punishment.
Of course if they do brew that, they won’t give it to you before either adding a bit of cool water (most places prefer to brew strong and then dilute) or letting it cool down (if they just insist on a strong-taste brand).
Coffee nuts are a fan of really high temperature in my experience. They just know that you can’t taste the difference if your first sip burns off your taste buds.
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EU should raise the 4% annual turnover rule to 10%. Google doesn't seem to be deterred
There is a reason they didn't. They fear the US government's reaction. Edit: Why downvote? Do you really think that the US government will stay silent if the European Union threatens with such fines? Political tensions are something you take heavily into account.
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Yes, once again, when an issue is systemic (in this case, all coffees by McDonalds are super-hot), the user is not to blame but the vendor/system designer. It reminds me of that recent case of 90%+ passengers "putting the oxygen masks wrong" because they are "idiots" - an opinion that seemed to be shared by a lot of people even here on HN, but even more so on Twitter. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/10…
Well, when you purchase coffee at McDonald’s and you see that it’s super hot, you can return it or cool it down by blowing on it before drinking it. Not commenting on the legal case, but it seems nuts to blame someone else for spilling hot coffee on yourself, no matter how you slice it.
Sad that Brave did not do their work correctly, the google_push parameter they are talking about is not an identifier. Otherwise it’s true that RTB should not exist and violate GDPR, but it’s so complex that even Brave was not able to correctly state the workflow. See their release note (15 April 2013); https://developers.google.com/authorized-buyers/rtb/relnotes “Starting in mid-April, we will begin assigning a URL-…
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Yes, once again, when an issue is systemic (in this case, all coffees by McDonalds are super-hot), the user is not to blame but the vendor/system designer. It reminds me of that recent case of 90%+ passengers "putting the oxygen masks wrong" because they are "idiots" - an opinion that seemed to be shared by a lot of people even here on HN, but even more so on Twitter. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/10…
Well, when you purchase coffee at McDonald’s and you see that it’s super hot, you can return it or cool it down by blowing on it before drinking it. Not commenting on the legal case, but it seems nuts to blame someone else for spilling hot coffee on yourself, no matter how you slice it.
How is unusually hot temperature significantly different from poison in this situation?
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The reason the McDonald's lawsuit is framed that way in popular circles is because it is easily fits the mold for a frivolous lawsuit. 1. A woman willingly purchased hot coffee from McDonald's. 2. She spilled it on herself. 3. She sued McDonald's because of her injuries. Those three things are true no matter which circle you ask. A lot of people I talk to, even when given all of the facts of the case still consider i…
I've heard this story numerous times as "haha in America X". Many of these stories go around the Netherlands... "in America someone sued McDonald's because the coffee was hot" "in America it says on the box to not microwave cats because someone once did" "in America you get a gun when you open a bank account" Etc.. Oh well I'm sure similar incorrect stories about Europe float around America.
Sample set of 1, but it was odd for someone not from America, and indeed it was his first time in America, to be as misinformed about things. Not knowing things is fine, but knowing wrong facts, and refusing corrections, was just weird.
It was an eye opener for what I "know" about Europe.
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The reason the McDonald's lawsuit is framed that way in popular circles is because it is easily fits the mold for a frivolous lawsuit. 1. A woman willingly purchased hot coffee from McDonald's. 2. She spilled it on herself. 3. She sued McDonald's because of her injuries. Those three things are true no matter which circle you ask. A lot of people I talk to, even when given all of the facts of the case still consider i…
I've heard this story numerous times as "haha in America X". Many of these stories go around the Netherlands... "in America someone sued McDonald's because the coffee was hot" "in America it says on the box to not microwave cats because someone once did" "in America you get a gun when you open a bank account" Etc.. Oh well I'm sure similar incorrect stories about Europe float around America.
This definitely happens with some narratives. For instance, some news outlets report that some parts of Europe are no-go zones for non Muslims, where Sharia reigns.
This is exactly what happened in the McDonald's "hot coffee" lawsuit. It wasn't some "Karen" who hit a bump while driving. It was an elderly woman (in her 70s, IIRC), sitting in the passenger seat. McDonalds already had complaints (and some lawsuits) over the (significantly higher than industry standard) temperature of their coffee, so this wasn't exactly out of the blue. She ended up with 3rd degree burns on her leg…
How did the coffee spill? Did she hold a cup of a beverage that is traditionally served very hot between her legs? That lawsuit was frivolous. Coffee is hot. If you spill it, it might burn you. As far as just asking for medical bills — that might have been true until her lawyers smelled a multi-million payday. Lawyers like that are the reason we have warnings on hair dryers to not use while showering and warnings on…
That corporate entity had decided it was cheaper to not fix it than to fix it, until a human being who they contributed to significantly harming brought the problem before a jury. And she was found partially responsible for her own injuries, a fact which you elide (while speaking so authoritatively that I must assume you know this to be true, otherwise you wouldn't, yes?), while the jury also found that McDonalds' had been reckless in their operation--that most of the money awarded was a punitive penalty assessed because that corporate entity was cavalier in their treatment of actual, real-not-fictive people.
While we're at it, the punitive award granted was $480,000, not "multi-million"--though the jury asked for it, as two days of McDonalds' coffee revenue, and was reduced by the judge.
You've either been had, or you're trying to do the having. I shall not speculate on which.