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In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by dole »

JoshMnem wrote: post #33
distant_hat wrote: post #9

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I did that a year back though I do miss a few things. One major one is task manager. Being able to identify rogue tabs is useful. Also, in general Firefox uses a lot more resources compared to Chrome. Another is the ability to smoothly zoom in/out of pages. But overall, the privacy benefits are easily worth it.

One Tab is useful to collect all your tabs in a list instead of leaving them open. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/onetab/ Also, like someone else mentioned, you can visit this in the address bar: about:performance

OneTab has been fantastic for killing and restarting Firefox to flush the memory usage without having to reopen the entire session all over again or taking the time to pore through open tabs to pick which to close.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by oarsinsync »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #288
Ensorceled wrote: post #244

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The thread I'm replying to has moved on to implying Mozilla is being misleading by using funding or social development.

Are you saying Mozilla does _not_ have social development projects? A specific comment on part of this thread seems to indicate it's part of their charter. (or something, not sure what to call it)

Mozilla explicitly states that they have social development projects. Mozilla is not misleading anyone. The commentor you're replying to explicitly posted[0] this a few comments up as well:

> "The direct work of the Mozilla Foundation focuses on fueling the movement for a healthy internet. We do this by supporting a diverse group of fellows working on key internet issues, connecting open Internet leaders at events like MozFest, publishing critical research in the Internet Health Report, and rallying citizens around advocacy issues that connect the wellbeing of the Internet directly to everyday life."

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20876014

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by guerrilla »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #231
thristian wrote: post #207

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"Meritocracy" is an unattainable goal, like "utopia". It sounds good in the abstract, but "merit" is such a subjective concept that it's useless for any practical purpose. Every person's life is as much a product of random chance as innate potential, so there's no objective measure of merit by which a meritocracy could be judged. I'm sure there's reasonable arguments against affirmative diversity in general or Mozill…

How do you define diversity though? How do you slice and dice and at what point do you say it is done? Say I am a hiring manager at Mozilla and I hire a college graduate from Rwandan not because he is best but because of a diversity quota. What if there is also a Sudanese grad who is looking for a job or a Nepalese transgender MtF? How do I decide at that point? Is it my call and only my call or should there be regul…

> How do you slice and dice and at what point do you say it is done?

When everyone has an equal opportunity.

You should be able to derive the rest of the answers to your questions from that.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by dole »

RandomBacon wrote: post #280
JoshMnem wrote: post #33

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One Tab is useful to collect all your tabs in a list instead of leaving them open. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/onetab/ Also, like someone else mentioned, you can visit this in the address bar: about:performance

Niether worked on Firefox for Android. One Tab acted maliciously: If you open One Tab, it doesn't show any tabs, so as someone who never used it before, I clicked "bring all tabs to One Tab" think you had to click a button to activate it. Nope, it closed all the tabs instead with absolutely no warning or way to undo it. That's an extremely bad design.

"Whenever you find yourself with too many tabs, click the OneTab icon to convert all of your tabs into a list. When you need to access the tabs again, you can either restore them individually or all at once."

Not sure what you were expecting. And on the OneTab page that gets generated, there's a link that says "Restore All" right at the top.

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Post by jshowa3 »

notyourday wrote: post #261
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #195

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> I want Mozilla to build a browser and a mail program. Nothing else. It's easy as that. Then buy Mozilla, the company, or buy FF/mail server devs to do it. By donating to mozilla you are actually supporting at least one effort Mozilla is participating in. If their revenue goes down after pursuing Pocket, then Mozilla will understand in general their donors don’t approve of pocket. On another coin, by not donating to…

Donate restricted fund and restricted funds only.

Problem with restricted fund is that the organization is forced to put it in a place where it may not be needed and they cannot use it elsewhere, even in the case of emergency.

So lets say you donated specifically for development of module X. What if a server died and it was in desperate need of repair? What if they need to hire Y person that had good talent for module X? People could construe the funding for interviews for that talent as not being specifically for development.

In short, a lot of people don't understand the bureaucracy of the company enough to make targeted donations for specific use. And it often hampers the organization when you do it.

I guess it's a case if you want Mozilla as an organization to exist as a whole since much of its parts are probably needed to get the product out the door, or caring about one specific piece of code which, in that case, you might as well just fork it and work on it yourself.

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Post by oarsinsync »

jdc wrote: post #308
thomas wrote: post #161

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How would one go about this? I don’t see a way to donate to a bounty or create one.

You can use a generic OSS bug bounty market place, eg. Bounty Source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_bounty

Which then take 10% off the top for administration of the platform. You cannot avoid funding administration, as that function enables the distribution of the money in the first place.

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Post by iamnotacrook »

ohthehugemanate wrote: post #114
lrem wrote: post #24

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I work at Google, but use Firefox for all my private things... Except when I run into a page that's broken in Firefox. And except when I need developer tools. And except when I need the browser to translate sites for me. And except when I'm shopping, as Google does a good enough job with payment details. And except Google properties, because who knows what weird HTTP 3.7 will Chrome use to save some ocean boiling?

What pages are people running into that are broken in FF? I _never_ encounter this.

I literally just found one without looking. Short gifs don't animate on Android Firefox but work fine on Chrome on the same phone. Actually, I'm having the same problem on desktop Firefox too, again fine in Chrome on the same pc:

https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/czle25/holy_crap_...

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Post by aarpmcgee »

a254613e wrote: post #78
shadykiller wrote: post #3

Switched to Firefox a few months back. Havn’t missed Chrome at all

To offer a bit of an opposite view here on HN: I give firefox a shot from time to time. I switch all devices to it, and then I use it exclusively all the time. My most recent attempt failed few days ago, after a bit more than a month with it. Firefox performance just doesn't feel the same as chrome, from constant small freezes, to using 100% CPU pretty often. And just overall experience on some platforms - especially…

As a counterpoint, Chrome is also pretty far from a native experience, from a Mac user perspective. Material design is hijacking and homogenizing convention across all platforms.

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Post by prepend »

whalabi wrote: post #42
lrem wrote: post #24

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I work at Google, but use Firefox for all my private things... Except when I run into a page that's broken in Firefox. And except when I need developer tools. And except when I need the browser to translate sites for me. And except when I'm shopping, as Google does a good enough job with payment details. And except Google properties, because who knows what weird HTTP 3.7 will Chrome use to save some ocean boiling?

I think Google has all these things because they have access to vastly more money and top tier developers than Mozilla. When you think about it, it's incredible that Firefox is as good as it is (same re Linux.) But obviously if Google wants to stay better than Firefox, whether it takes a year or a decade, they'll always be able to because they have an absurd amount of resources. So I wonder, what are Firefox's compet…

I think the main benefit is that they are closely aligned with user desire and value. Another is that they aren’t trying to run an App Store that makes revenue and profit.

While Chrome is open source, there’s not a true community making decisions. It’s just google doing stuff and releasing code. That is really nice, but not as nice as a community and foundation developing and making decisions based on community desires rather than what fits into Google’s corporate plan.

Google does a lot of stuff that I like and I use many of their services and software. But Google’s direct interests are not my own. Google wants to sell ads. I don’t care about selling ads so everything with them is a trade off between what I want and what I’m willing to pay.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by RobertRoberts »

jshowa3 wrote: post #301
RobertRoberts wrote: post #234

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Development of code is a technical action. Can you explain why a secondary action outside of writing code is required simply based on the results of the code? Surely you aren't suggesting that for Google to develop anti-privacy code would require them to have anti-privacy social development?

Development of code is not, strictly, a technical action. Otherwise, how would you know what to develop unless you discussed the requirements of the customer? Discussing requirements with the customer, or even within your team, involves several facets of industry, including diversity. For example, if you were trying to construct an app to measure diversity, you would need to know what category to measure, how to meas…

Are you saying that Mozilla's only social development is asking questions and "getting requirements"?

And I entirely disagree that programming code /requires/ any social interaction at all. You can do it purely alone in a basement with no contact with anyone.

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