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In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by Springtime »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #53
lrem wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google, but use Firefox for all my private things... Except when I run into a page that's broken in Firefox. And except when I need developer tools. And except when I need the browser to translate sites for me. And except when I'm shopping, as Google does a good enough job with payment details. And except Google properties, because who knows what weird HTTP 3.7 will Chrome use to save some ocean boiling?

That's great that you come out and openly say you're using FF for privacy! > page that's broken in FF I don't know any, and have used FF for as long as it exists. Could you give an example (or better yet, tell Mozilla via FF's built-in feedback)? > developer tools FF's devtools are far superior to Chrome's IMO for core web tech such as CSS debugging (Chrome is better for JavaScript debugging and profiling, that I'll…

Similarly I rarely found sites that didn't work in Firefox, Google sites included (given they're tested more than the vast majority of sites I should hope so).

That said I moved to Vivaldi since most of the useful addons I had became incompatible with FF post-Quantum (nor, last I checked, is there any longer a way to save webpages as MHTML which I use frequently and exclusively to save web page content). Though I sorely miss the ability to disable DirectWrite in Blink browsers, which allowed MacType to affect the font rendering for far better text legibility.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by roca »

ecmascript wrote: post #90
newscracker wrote: post #55

Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share, please consider doing the following: 1. Evangelize Firefox to people you know any chance you get and show them all the reasons why its better than Chrome (focus on privacy as an important point). Show them how great browsing can be with a few key extensions (like uBlock Origin, Containers, Privacy Possum, etc.). This does not imply that Mo…

> Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share I used to be one of these people but I am no longer. I have switched my default browser from Firefox to Brave since I cannot withstand Mozillas bullshit anymore. Not only is it a complete joke that firefox put Google Analytics on their privacy pages but their actions of "wokeness" in which they fired Brendan Eich and all their diversity s…

If you care about privacy then you have ETP turned on which means Google Analytics would be blocked for you.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by Barrin92 »

a254613e wrote: post #78
shadykiller wrote: post #3

Switched to Firefox a few months back. Havn’t missed Chrome at all

To offer a bit of an opposite view here on HN: I give firefox a shot from time to time. I switch all devices to it, and then I use it exclusively all the time. My most recent attempt failed few days ago, after a bit more than a month with it. Firefox performance just doesn't feel the same as chrome, from constant small freezes, to using 100% CPU pretty often. And just overall experience on some platforms - especially…

on windows I don't notice any performance difference, but on linux (which i use most of the time) in particular on my laptop firefox performance seems (at least subjectively) significantly worse than chrome if my fans are any indicator.

I don't know if this is site dependent or just a general issue but it bugs me too much to use firefox right now.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by ohithereyou »

newscracker wrote: post #55

Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share, please consider doing the following: 1. Evangelize Firefox to people you know any chance you get and show them all the reasons why its better than Chrome (focus on privacy as an important point). Show them how great browsing can be with a few key extensions (like uBlock Origin, Containers, Privacy Possum, etc.). This does not imply that Mo…

>If you can, donate money to Mozilla regularly. [1] As of a couple of years ago (IIRC), more than 90% of Mozilla's revenue was from its partnership with Google for being the default search engine in many geographies.

This is also likely a smokescreen on Google's part to defend against allegations that they are abusing an arguable monopoly decision in the browser market.

'We're not abusing our monopoly position! We give money to The Mozilla Foundation that produces a competing browser!'

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by SolaceQuantum »

martin_a wrote: post #156
sakisv wrote: post #120

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> There is no way to ensure this, so I will not give any money at all. Please keep in mind that this is not a personal attack as I don't know you and I don't find it particularly constructive to engage in this kind of attacks, so please only focus on my argument: I cannot understand this way of thinking. On one hand we have the option to give Mozilla some money to use them however they see fit. This means that from t…

> I cannot understand this way of thinking. I want Mozilla to build a browser and a mail program. Nothing else. It's easy as that. And if I have to "fear" that they will use my money to build something else, I will not donate to them. Think of them as a company with several products. People would buy Firefox, they would buy Thunderbird, but probably nobody would buy the aforementioned "moz://" product or Pocket. In a…

> I want Mozilla to build a browser and a mail program. Nothing else. It's easy as that.

Then buy Mozilla, the company, or buy FF/mail server devs to do it. By donating to mozilla you are actually supporting at least one effort Mozilla is participating in. If their revenue goes down after pursuing Pocket, then Mozilla will understand in general their donors don’t approve of pocket. On another coin, by not donating to Mozilla one also is fine with not funding FF/Mail because money just might go to things one doesn’t approve of.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by Hitton »

hanniabu wrote: post #36

A big reason why I stick with Chrome is because Firefox's menu pisses me off how it's this popup box with huge icon rather than Chrome's more traditional list of text. Sounds stupid, but that's a big enough reason for me.

I have never switched to Chrome for similar reason. It doesn't allow tabs under address bar. That said in recent versions Firefox allows to do it only in rather complicated way by editing userChrome.css, but at least it's possible. I'm not very happy with many of recent decisions of Mozilla devs, but there isn't really any decent alternative to switch to.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by bluehatbrit »

shadykiller wrote: post #3

Switched to Firefox a few months back. Havn’t missed Chrome at all

This is me as well, but the one issue I have noticed is that windows updates have started screwing around with my ability to watch videos (netflix, youtube, even things on twitter) and I can't figure out why.

Firefox works perfectly on my linux and macos machines but on windows it seems to crumble after most Windows updates which is a shame. I imagine this is mostly due to Windows rather than Firefox but it's meant I've had to start using Chrome for a lot of things at home on my game / leisure machine.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by dhimes »

iamnotacrook wrote: post #160
a254613e wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To offer a bit of an opposite view here on HN: I give firefox a shot from time to time. I switch all devices to it, and then I use it exclusively all the time. My most recent attempt failed few days ago, after a bit more than a month with it. Firefox performance just doesn't feel the same as chrome, from constant small freezes, to using 100% CPU pretty often. And just overall experience on some platforms - especially…

"Firefox performance just doesn't feel the same as chrome, from constant small freezes, to using 100% CPU pretty often" I don't get those problems, but even if I did, it would be well worth it as opposed to seeing ads all the time. If Google wanted me to uninstall Firefox forever and use Chrome they'd allow for plug-ins for Chrome (on Android). While they don't I'll simply never switch. I have no idea how people tole…

The only sites that give me problems now are ones like Accuweather that try to load media connected to third-party trackers. Firefox won't load them (and I decline to change the settings) and the site fails.

For those sites, and others that are intrusive, if you need them, you can use containers. I use containers for things like Twitter and Facebook.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by aldanor »

Started using Firefox half a year ago because of a single plugin: TreeStyleTab - which lets you keep a tree of your tabs in a sidebar on the left (I tend to keep a hundred or so open all the time). I have no idea how I've lived without it for so long...

Since then, Firefox has been gaining some momentum + performance and add tracking, surely not planning to switch back to Chrome/Safari anytime soon.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by ecmascript »

Jonnax wrote: post #188
ecmascript wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No he did not. He funded a political campaign. No I do not know that formulation and I completely disagree with that. It's like saying you need heavy censorship in order to have free speech. Complete bullshit.

They funded a homophobic political campaign. Websites started user agent detecting Firefox and putting banners saying to not use Firefox because of their homophobic CEO. It's pathetic that people like you hide behind censorship arguments and "diversity of thought" when defending the right to attack minorities. This kind of disingenuous thinking makes me question anyone evangelising Brave as a web browser.

Just because someone donate to a political campaign that wants to stop same-sex marriage doesn't automatically make that person homophobic.

He didn't attack any minority, stop spreading objectively false information. I am defending his right to believe whatever he likes in private. It will be a quick downhill (as we already have seen) as soon as you start listing bad values and try to hate on people that have these values.

You may think I'm pathetic if you wish, I don't care. But remember, I will defend your right to your opinion too. It's kind of obvious you do not believe in the same thing and if more people would be like you we would find ourselves in a dark dystopia. You could move to China, they are well on their way to building the kind of society you seem to strive for. :)

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