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In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by srtjstjsj »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #57
newscracker wrote: post #55

Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share, please consider doing the following: 1. Evangelize Firefox to people you know any chance you get and show them all the reasons why its better than Chrome (focus on privacy as an important point). Show them how great browsing can be with a few key extensions (like uBlock Origin, Containers, Privacy Possum, etc.). This does not imply that Mo…

Is there some way to ensure the donation money will actually go to Firefox and not to some sort of "diversity" campaign?

Money is fungible. You could donate simply to keep them afloat regardless of their campaigns, in acknowledgement that the sum total of their activities is a massive positive that doesn't need nitpicking.

Otherwise, you can recruit and hire someone to write the features you approve of.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by chronolitus »

interactivecode wrote: post #68
skocznymroczny wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some way to ensure the donation money will actually go to Firefox and not to some sort of "diversity" campaign?

Yikes why would you not want companies investing in diversity? Especially if they are the interface to our online world?

It could be that your parent comment wanted to spark a discussion on whether there is value added from Marketing campaigns, rather than about politics / diversity in the workplace.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by carey »

thorn wrote: post #61

I would love to if FF could handle Amazon.com without boiling my MBP2013. Is it a bug in FF or just Amazon did not care to optimize their shit? Is there a way to figure out the performance's origin in FF somehow?

It’s probably https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574538, so you could try Firefox Nightly and see if there’s any improvement.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by input_sh »

someonenice wrote: post #35

Already lot of sites are not tested on Firefox and many explicitly so [1]. Now the web publishers that rely on ads will have less incentive to support Firefox. They might even actively promote other browsers. Similar to how IE was discouraged by websites explicitly. "This site works best on Chrome" is only what is needed now to reduce the Firefox userbase further. Note - This comment was typed on firefox. [1] https:/…

> and many explicitly so [1].

Ignoring Google's properties (because we all know by now that they don't really play fair), the only examples I see there are Bank of America and some user complaining about his D3 animation being slow.

I'd hardly call that many.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by elcomet »

stiray wrote: post #41
lrem wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google, but use Firefox for all my private things... Except when I run into a page that's broken in Firefox. And except when I need developer tools. And except when I need the browser to translate sites for me. And except when I'm shopping, as Google does a good enough job with payment details. And except Google properties, because who knows what weird HTTP 3.7 will Chrome use to save some ocean boiling?

I have developed another strategy. If the site doesnt work in firefox I will just leave. Most of the content is available elsewhere and it is internet way of "voting with my wallet".

But you can't always do this if you need to use the site for your company (like hangouts for meetings, or other services used like managing expenses).

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by the_gipsy »

whalabi wrote: post #42
lrem wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google, but use Firefox for all my private things... Except when I run into a page that's broken in Firefox. And except when I need developer tools. And except when I need the browser to translate sites for me. And except when I'm shopping, as Google does a good enough job with payment details. And except Google properties, because who knows what weird HTTP 3.7 will Chrome use to save some ocean boiling?

I think Google has all these things because they have access to vastly more money and top tier developers than Mozilla. When you think about it, it's incredible that Firefox is as good as it is (same re Linux.) But obviously if Google wants to stay better than Firefox, whether it takes a year or a decade, they'll always be able to because they have an absurd amount of resources. So I wonder, what are Firefox's compet…

> So I wonder, what are Firefox's competitive advantages?

Acting in the interest of the user.

Chrome has a history of adding or removing features, to align more to Google's business strategy, than to what really matters to the users.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by [deleted] »

BigJono wrote: post #56
a_imho wrote: post #48

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It's something a person would say with a salary depending on ads. Who likes tracking and popups? TV programming butchered? Endless garbage in the mail? Come on.

I think it's the opposite. We're in a bubble here. It's easy enough for a software engineer to say they'd pay for the content that's on the web when we have the disposable income to do so without even breaking stride. If you ask the average person whether they'd prefer to pay for web content or cop ads and trackers, they'd probably tell you to shove your subscription service or whatever alternative you can come up wi…

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Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by liability »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #91
skocznymroczny wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some way to ensure the donation money will actually go to Firefox and not to some sort of "diversity" campaign?

Money is fungible. You could donate simply to keep them afloat regardless of their campaigns, in acknowledgement that the sum total of their activities is a massive positive that doesn't need nitpicking. Otherwise, you can recruit and hire someone to write the features you approve of.

If I give Mozilla more money than they were anticipating, will they put it aside for a rainy day? Or will they expand their ambitions to fit their new budget and find themselves impoverished again next year?

Money is fungible but budgets have a nasty habit of being elastic.

Re: In a swipe at Chrome, Firefox now blocks ad trackers by default

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Post by 0xfffff »

elcomet wrote: post #95
stiray wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have developed another strategy. If the site doesnt work in firefox I will just leave. Most of the content is available elsewhere and it is internet way of "voting with my wallet".

But you can't always do this if you need to use the site for your company (like hangouts for meetings, or other services used like managing expenses).

Exactly, welcome back the good old Internet Explorer days!
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