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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by ttctciyf »

dredmorbius wrote: post #254
boring_twenties wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, it always shows me old reddit when I log in. I just tried logging out, got new reddit, then old reddit again as soon as I logged back in. Are you saying you have that checkbox you pointed out unchecked, and still get new reddit by default?

I navigate directly to old Reddit. However if links within Reddit (in comments, sidebars, wikis) specify the full domain, I end up at new reddit. I basically never ever want to be there. I've specifically not enabled JS for 'www.reddit.com' so that the site won't load, but I still have to fix URLs manually when directed there. What I'd like is for any 'www.reddit.com' I encounter on the site to be rewritten to 'old.r…

I log in to www.reddit.com, and have the "use new reddit" box unchecked. Anytime I click a link to reddit (including np.reddit links) it honours my preference of avoiding new reddit (checked just now by a quick reddit search on site:reddit.com)

So maybe this is a misfeature on old.reddit.com, or you don't have the box unchecked?

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by ttctciyf »

turrini wrote: post #24

There should be an extension that automatically redirects common websites to their lite versions. reddit.com -> old.reddit.com facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com npr.org -> text.npr.org twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled) gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

Well volunteered! You can add:

* amp link -> non-amp version of same link

while you're at it, please!

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by waterhouse »

wtallis wrote: post #131
turrini wrote: post #24

There should be an extension that automatically redirects common websites to their lite versions. reddit.com -> old.reddit.com facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com npr.org -> text.npr.org twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled) gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

On Firefox I use Redirector: http://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ I have it set up to handle Reddit and Wikipedia. News sites and Twitter don't get to run JS thanks to NoScript, so I usually don't have to do anything extra to get a lightweight experience there.

+1 for Redirector. I eventually got sufficiently sick of www.reddit.com that I searched for solutions and ultimately chose Redirector to replace it with old.reddit.com. It lets you use either a "wildcard" or a "regex"-type match; I chose the former, and this is what I've been running:

  Redirect:
  *//www.reddit.com/*
  to:
  $1//old.reddit.com/$2

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by oefrha »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #302
pmarin wrote: post #289

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This is probably the reason upvotes still work with javascript dissabled. It’s a feature.

Sending the same reply regardless of whether the user is using Js or not is not a feature. It's lazy. You wouldn't even need to change a single thing about the front end to fix this on the back end, since the js request via Ajax already has an additional header field ( x-sent-via: Xmlhttprequest or something along the lines). This might be as simple as wrapping output generation in a single if-statement.

> the js request via Ajax already has an additional header field

No, X-Requested-With is a non-standard header set by frameworks like jQuery. But it’s trivial to set something like that with either XHR or fetch.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by pizza234 »

ian0 wrote: post #171
pizza234 wrote: post #135

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Also, worth mentioning the insufficient formatting features. Quoting is not supported, and is quite important for forum discussions' UX.

>> Also, worth mentioning the insufficient formatting features. Quoting is not supported, and is quite important for forum discussions' UX Exactly

I'm not sure if this is sarcastic or not, but the problem is when the quoted text is longer and/or multiline, and especially when it's both.

You typically see users working this around with spacing, and (sometimes) other users complaining (rightfully) that they can't see the full text on mobile without scrolling.

This is exacerbated by the fact that then HN rendering only has the "

" concept, not the "
". If one works this around using the greater than symbol, and there are several entries, it blends too much with user-typed text.

It's not a very big deal, but it's pretty much standard feature in forum engines, and the lack of it makes the text outlook unnecessarily worse.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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Post by watt »

danek wrote: post #247
zaroth wrote: post #103

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That's a feature IMO -- HN could even make them even smaller. It should take conscious effort to vote, and the small target size mentally reinforces this model; that it's not supposed to be the most common action. EDIT: See, clearly the vote targets simply aren't small enough !

I rarely wish to click on the username or time links (“3 hours ago”), but that’s what I click on the most due to size and placement issues (when trying to vote or collapse a thread). I agree one should not blindly vote, but at the same time if you have decided to vote, it shouldn’t be maddeningly difficult and error prone to execute.

Usability-wise, isn't it kind of weird that the click target you use the most (upvote arrow) is the smallest of the three? And the ones that you use rarely or never, are so easy to hit by accident. Why must world be like this?
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