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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

Modern front-end toolsets are finally starting to address this by using automated critical css, SSR + "hydrating" on load for interactive elements, webpack treeshaking + chunking of assets into tiny js/css files and only loading code based on what the page/routes asks for, PurgeCSS to get rid of unused css, cssnano/uglify/htmlmin/imagemin, etc. Webpack and these various popular tools has done a lot to make the web be…

A modern css framework would increase the font size change the font type make the reply link a fat button. It would put a card around each parent reply thread.

Getting rid of unused css helps but the additional markup would make the page 4 or 5 times larger.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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post #22

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

Modern front-end toolsets are finally starting to address this by using automated critical css, SSR + "hydrating" on load for interactive elements, webpack treeshaking + chunking of assets into tiny js/css files and only loading code based on what the page/routes asks for, PurgeCSS to get rid of unused css, cssnano/uglify/htmlmin/imagemin, etc. Webpack and these various popular tools has done a lot to make the web be…

> news sites

It's really a sad state of affairs when an industry with such a strong historical connection with publishing is now reasonably cited as an industry worse at publishing than most others.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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post #4

Is PG even involved with HN anymore? He hasn't posted on his account in four years.

>At the end of March 2014, Graham stepped away from his leadership role at Y Combinator, leaving Hacker News administration in the hands of other staff members

Though he's still a major shareholder of YC which owns it. He tweets quite a lot these days.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

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post #32
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern front-end toolsets are finally starting to address this by using automated critical css, SSR + "hydrating" on load for interactive elements, webpack treeshaking + chunking of assets into tiny js/css files and only loading code based on what the page/routes asks for, PurgeCSS to get rid of unused css, cssnano/uglify/htmlmin/imagemin, etc. Webpack and these various popular tools has done a lot to make the web be…

A modern css framework would increase the font size change the font type make the reply link a fat button. It would put a card around each parent reply thread. Getting rid of unused css helps but the additional markup would make the page 4 or 5 times larger.

A "framework" doesn't do that. A designer does. Or whoever decides to implement it.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#39

I personally believe this is one of the couple reason why HN's demographic is significantly on the older side, in Tech terms. I personally wish HN attracted a bit of a fresher, younger crowd as the conversation here has become more stale over the last few years.

I wish there were more preteens and teens on the site. By the time someone reaches 20 their ideas are a little stale shaped by the harsh realities of life.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#40

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

I’m always amused when the frameworks being used advertise things like “We make coding fun!”

I tend to think “but what about making the web enjoyable for the end user?”

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