I bet HN will look almost identical 10 years from now, too. I wonder how many popular websites can boast such a consistent design from their beginning?
Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News
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#22I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".
The basic shift back to pre-rendering + delivering only what's needed on the actual page is a big deal which hasn't got enough attention yet IMO. We went completely in the other direction for over a decade because we thought networks and browsers could handle it, but it was too easy to abuse and mobile took over.
There's no reason even very advanced websites can't load quickly, without having to fully compromise back to the 90s non-interactive websites.
News sites and marketing teams still ruin it regardless with all the crap they add on top. But it's far far better than loading a giant blob of 20 jquery libraries plus a big old angular.js or backbonejs app (sometimes both at the same time) encompassing a whole site in one file, even though you just wanted to visit the contact page.
I also blame Themeforest type developers because they're still stuck in the "let's add a hundred JS files so I can parallax and animate two divs" mindset.
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#23old.reddit.com is still usable if it helps!
Imgur for instance isn't a site that I visit daily or even weekly any more. I really enjoyed the site, but after a redesign it just stopped being enjoyable. It's way to slow, to much Javascript. It's the only thing that will reliably force my MacBook to ramp up it's fans. How is it possible for a website to make a laptop heat up more than doing development work?
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#24reddit.com -> old.reddit.com
facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com
cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com
npr.org -> text.npr.org
twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled)
gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)
Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News
#25I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".
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#27100% agreed. A dark mode option would be cool, but it's very easy to get one with user themes and alternative UIs. I bet HN will look almost identical 10 years from now, too. I wonder how many popular websites can boast such a consistent design from their beginning?
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#28Is PG even involved with HN anymore? He hasn't posted on his account in four years.
Fine by me, but I wish HN would offer the same privilege to its users and allow us to delete our old posts
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#29I personally wish HN attracted a bit of a fresher, younger crowd as the conversation here has become more stale over the last few years.
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#30I'd argue that having simpler markup and some sane, well-designed css would enhance performance further.