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Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#21
100% agreed. A dark mode option would be cool, but it's very easy to get one with user themes and alternative UIs.

I bet HN will look almost identical 10 years from now, too. I wonder how many popular websites can boast such a consistent design from their beginning?

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#22

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

Modern front-end toolsets are finally starting to address this by using automated critical css, SSR + "hydrating" on load for interactive elements, webpack treeshaking + chunking of assets into tiny js/css files and only loading code based on what the page/routes asks for, PurgeCSS to get rid of unused css, cssnano/uglify/htmlmin/imagemin, etc. Webpack and these various popular tools has done a lot to make the web better and are default in many starter kits. But we're just beginning to see it go mainstream.

The basic shift back to pre-rendering + delivering only what's needed on the actual page is a big deal which hasn't got enough attention yet IMO. We went completely in the other direction for over a decade because we thought networks and browsers could handle it, but it was too easy to abuse and mobile took over.

There's no reason even very advanced websites can't load quickly, without having to fully compromise back to the 90s non-interactive websites.

News sites and marketing teams still ruin it regardless with all the crap they add on top. But it's far far better than loading a giant blob of 20 jquery libraries plus a big old angular.js or backbonejs app (sometimes both at the same time) encompassing a whole site in one file, even though you just wanted to visit the contact page.

I also blame Themeforest type developers because they're still stuck in the "let's add a hundred JS files so I can parallax and animate two divs" mindset.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#23

old.reddit.com is still usable if it helps!

I still can't use the redesigned Reddit, I not even sure that I would, if I could. It's still way to slow to be something I'd use on a regular basis. If they kill of the old.reddit.com, I don't think I'd continue to visit Reddit.

Imgur for instance isn't a site that I visit daily or even weekly any more. I really enjoyed the site, but after a redesign it just stopped being enjoyable. It's way to slow, to much Javascript. It's the only thing that will reliably force my MacBook to ramp up it's fans. How is it possible for a website to make a laptop heat up more than doing development work?

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#24
There should be an extension that automatically redirects common websites to their lite versions.

reddit.com -> old.reddit.com

facebook.com -> mbasic.facebook.com

cnn.com -> lite.cnn.com

npr.org -> text.npr.org

twitter.com -> twitter.com (with JS disabled)

gmail.com -> gmail.com (HTML version)

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#25

I loathe the modern web. Speed is a secondary to "hey look what we're doing with our frameworks".

Iterating without a destination in mind. Assigning people to work on something vs finish it. This is in stark contrast to games which get released, get stabilized, and stop development. This model would suit a lot of software aside from security or dependencies necessitating updates but if we want we can just iterate forever.

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#27

100% agreed. A dark mode option would be cool, but it's very easy to get one with user themes and alternative UIs. I bet HN will look almost identical 10 years from now, too. I wonder how many popular websites can boast such a consistent design from their beginning?

Here you go! =) https://github.com/vishaldpatel/HNDarkMode

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#28
post #4

Is PG even involved with HN anymore? He hasn't posted on his account in four years.

I've seen posts by PG in some recent threads out in the wild, they don't show up in his post history. I would imagine this is intentional to prevent old comments being dredged up and used against him, much like Zuckerberg's old FB messages were automatically deleted from the recipients inbox.

Fine by me, but I wish HN would offer the same privilege to its users and allow us to delete our old posts

Re: Tell HN: Thank you for not redesigning Hacker News

#30
it is possible to redesign something without adding tons of useless guff - stuff does need updating eventually, even if it isn't technically broken e.g. inline styles and spacer gifs.

I'd argue that having simpler markup and some sane, well-designed css would enhance performance further.

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