“What is holding back the growth of e-commerce is not technology, it’s policy. This gives us the rules, the policies that we need to really move forward.”
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Internet Identity System Said Readied by Obama Administration
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Re: Internet Identity System Said Readied by Obama Administration
#72This has been out there for a while. Here is a draft of the plans from June 2010: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ns_tic.pdf Basically an ecosystem of privately run PKI systems, with an independent governance board and standards body.
Bruce Schneier wrote an excellent article on PKI risks ( http://www.schneier.com/paper-pki-ft.txt ). Should be interesting to see how many of those are addressed as this scheme comes to fruition. It has the potential to become a highly useful backdoor intelligence gathering mechanism. This is a honeypot that the three letter agencies won't be able to resist.
Exactly. It will also make Id theft more easy because there will be a single point of failure. This is like one password for the web. I don't like this at google. It is easier but much less safe.
Re: Internet Identity System Said Readied by Obama Administration
#73Doesn't seem so farfetched to me. If there is gonna be de facto centralized identity providers (Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc) the govt may as well get in on the game. Only makes it more important that we get decentralized identity mechanisms (key based id) up and running sooner rather than later.
and this is part of why every email I send is PGP-signed. <3 this decentralized way of identifying me. All you gotta do is trust a guy who trusts me, or semi-trust several guys who (semi-)trust me.
It's nitpicky, but you're using the word trust wrong here. I don't have to completely trust the people who signed your key, and I don't have to trust you at all. I have to trust the people that signed your key to have done the proper background checking. That's all. I could think your a vile, lying, cheater, but still know that when you send me that lying email, it is indeed you sending it.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
and this is part of why every email I send is PGP-signed. <3 this decentralized way of identifying me. All you gotta do is trust a guy who trusts me, or semi-trust several guys who (semi-)trust me.
It's nitpicky, but you're using the word trust wrong here. I don't have to completely trust the people who signed your key, and I don't have to trust you at all. I have to trust the people that signed your key to have done the proper background checking. That's all. I could think your a vile, lying, cheater, but still know that when you send me that lying email, it is indeed you sending it.
In the aggregate, you don't even need that much trust in any individual, just a spam filter on the trust endorsements.
Re: Internet Identity System Said Readied by Obama Administration
#75Since the web is a global community I'm not convinced that a US public / private partnership can be that effective. For better or worse (probably the latter), I think FB with it's substantial global presence is the horse to beat on this one... and if FB gets invited to the US gov's little slumber party, I'm pretty sure competing identity systems - potentially led by other governments - will spring up faster than you can order a Chinese takeout...
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but there also used to be competing post offices that were so profitable and efficient that they were able to offer three-cent stamps. Read about it here: http://www.lysanderspooner.org/STAMP3.htm Spooner's post office was so good that no one was really using the USPS any more. He was literally running them out of business. That is, until Congress came in and said that what he was doing was illegal. Since then,…
The classification difference means That UPS is union and FedEx is not. UPS is not as profitable and is lobbying to get FedEx reclassified.
UPS turned a profit of $3.126 billion last year. FedEx made $1.321 billion. UPS has higher profit margins than FedEx as well.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
and this is part of why every email I send is PGP-signed. <3 this decentralized way of identifying me. All you gotta do is trust a guy who trusts me, or semi-trust several guys who (semi-)trust me.
It's nitpicky, but you're using the word trust wrong here. I don't have to completely trust the people who signed your key, and I don't have to trust you at all. I have to trust the people that signed your key to have done the proper background checking. That's all. I could think your a vile, lying, cheater, but still know that when you send me that lying email, it is indeed you sending it.
Yes, you're correct, thanks for enlightening me.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Net neutrality has always been about "a controllable space with gov't teeth." Eh? No. It was formed as a reaction to plans announced by the big telcos to monetize traffic flowing through their networks. Specifically, they were going to hobble the connection speeds of any popular website like YouTube unless they were paid money. So people who weren't even their customers could have their traffic throttled merely bec…
everyone from the ACLU to the Christian Coalition was outraged by this naked money grab. Basically, almost everyone hated the idea. If this isn't an example of selecion bias, I don't know what is. These are two groups everyone loves to hate, some of it justified because one promotes their Jesus-loving to the point where it doesn't make any sense and the other sometimes forgets to emphasize the A and C in their acrony…
> And when were the "big telco" plans announced? Did I miss that?
That was what? A few years ago? It was before the term "Net Neutrality" even existed (which is what makes it such a pain--I can't for the life of me find the original article).
I think I originally saw the plan on Slashdot, after which there was a letter signed by a ton of interest groups (more than just the CC & ACLU, way more) opposing the plan. That unity didn't last long--they were afraid and ran straight to the lobbyists.
People saw good reason to worry that they wouldn't just give up and came up with the name "Net Neutrality" for the cause, but... then we started getting split up. At first, they were questioning, "Is this really needed" and "What the heck does 'Net Neutrality' mean?" (still are, actually).
Now they've framed it in terms of whether we want to be screwed by politicians or teleco monopolies, hitting a deep political rift and preventing us from effectively working together to oppose them collecting rent from internet users they don't even provide access for.
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Zero chance. It will be optional in the way that TSA searches are optional at airports. Public Safety, of course. Terrorists, child molesters, hate speech. We'll have to be protected. Really, this script writes itself.
Relax. Breathe. Take a walk through a park and smell the roses. Don't let the fear and negative thoughts cloud your head constantly and ask yourself how you can be positive and productive, without polluting the conversation with baseless doom and gloom statements.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zero chance. It will be optional in the way that TSA searches are optional at airports. Public Safety, of course. Terrorists, child molesters, hate speech. We'll have to be protected. Really, this script writes itself.
Relax. Breathe. Take a walk through a park and smell the roses. Don't let the fear and negative thoughts cloud your head constantly and ask yourself how you can be positive and productive, without polluting the conversation with baseless doom and gloom statements.
Looks like urging for calm and sanity isn't popular with some folks here.