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Coming from a small third world country myself, I didn’t know what the market was until I was 19 and came to the states. Everything we needed to survive we grew it or raised it. It was a way of life, at 5 or 6 years old I was able to watch over our farm animals and knew exactly what was expected of me. Now a 6 years old can’t even put their own shoes on by themselves let alone know how to do anything related to self…
Are you saying it's a bad thing that our 6 year olds don't have to herd sheep to be able to survive?
My kids aren’t raised on a farm, but we take frequent trips to local farms so they can see how they operate, touch and interact with animals (help milk a cow and feed livestock, for example).
As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, change a flat tire, perform CPR, body weight exercises, as well as survival skills. Fortune favors the prepared. And I’ll admit, I’m going to be filled with pride the first time my daughter successfully strikes an arc stick welding and fixes something on the spot.
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Woof. That is a flaming hot take my friend. Allow me to counter: We no longer require children to produce labor for our living. This allows for all sorts of different outcomes. Some good (more time for education in a wider variety of matters, development of different social skills, etc) some bad (less time focused on the development of "cause to effect" production education, more sedentary lives, etc). Some parents a…
The perspective which is open to seeing the "good" and the "bad" is usually closer to seeing the "truth". However, your open perspective does not necessarily counter the original comment. from the original comment: "Yes, we live in a sad world that we don’t know anymore what will happen if one day markets are no longer an option." If you remove the word sad, would you refute that statement? Yes, there are good and ba…
That's not to say you can't learn those things even if you live in a modern society, but it takes some effort.
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Are you saying it's a bad thing that our 6 year olds don't have to herd sheep to be able to survive?
It’s a bad thing to not teach kids life skills besides navigating mobile and social apps. My kids aren’t raised on a farm, but we take frequent trips to local farms so they can see how they operate, touch and interact with animals (help milk a cow and feed livestock, for example). As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, change a flat tire, perform CPR, body weight exercises, as well as s…
...until one day they'll learn to say "No Mom/Dad, I'm not interested." I'm not being cynical: children have their own minds and it's a really important growing step to find their own interest at some age.
Well, if your kids are like you, they may have a slightly better chance of liking changing a flat tire than my kids, but don't expect it as a given, and don't be alarmed if they decide shooting a minecraft Youtube video is a better use of their time.
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It’s a bad thing to not teach kids life skills besides navigating mobile and social apps. My kids aren’t raised on a farm, but we take frequent trips to local farms so they can see how they operate, touch and interact with animals (help milk a cow and feed livestock, for example). As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, change a flat tire, perform CPR, body weight exercises, as well as s…
> As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, ... ...until one day they'll learn to say "No Mom/Dad, I'm not interested." I'm not being cynical: children have their own minds and it's a really important growing step to find their own interest at some age. Well, if your kids are like you, they may have a slightly better chance of liking changing a flat tire than my kids, but don't expect it a…
But over here its also shifting from old retirees to young people, at the moment its qquite a good mix.
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Woof. That is a flaming hot take my friend. Allow me to counter: We no longer require children to produce labor for our living. This allows for all sorts of different outcomes. Some good (more time for education in a wider variety of matters, development of different social skills, etc) some bad (less time focused on the development of "cause to effect" production education, more sedentary lives, etc). Some parents a…
The perspective which is open to seeing the "good" and the "bad" is usually closer to seeing the "truth". However, your open perspective does not necessarily counter the original comment. from the original comment: "Yes, we live in a sad world that we don’t know anymore what will happen if one day markets are no longer an option." If you remove the word sad, would you refute that statement? Yes, there are good and ba…
Still don't agree with it in any real way. "We live in a world we don't know anymore" is the story of human history. Change is the only constant and all that (yea yea, "industrial revolution", "everything is happening so fast", yadda yadda.)
IDK what "What will happen if one day markets are no longer an option" is supposed to mean? Like, global collapse and we can't buy things at the store? Then it's a global collapse and everything is fucked. The situations that would lead to me needing to know how to make my own tools and farm my own land and fight off gangs of raiders coming for my water and women aren't worth worrying about. You can't plan for "the whole of society as you know it collapses" without knowing specifically what would be replacing your society.
Dude was trying to say that he feels his unique experience is good and his values are good and he sees a society that doesn't respect those skills and values. I believe that is his view. I don't share it. These two things can both exist simultaneously because they're just opinions.
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Video games are predicated on quick achievement of short term goals, so it's not actually realistic.. If you had to sit staring out a window at an empty field for 16 hours a day no one would do it either.
I don't even mean the watching the crops or livestock grow. I mean the actual work part, too. Planting row crops is legit the most boring work I've ever participated in. It is less than mindless. And that seems like the most active part of that game. Maybe if the physics were wonky that would be funny, at least. But this is one that I can't wrap my mind around.
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It’s a bad thing to not teach kids life skills besides navigating mobile and social apps. My kids aren’t raised on a farm, but we take frequent trips to local farms so they can see how they operate, touch and interact with animals (help milk a cow and feed livestock, for example). As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, change a flat tire, perform CPR, body weight exercises, as well as s…
> As soon as they’re a bit older, they’ll learn to weld, tend a garden, ... ...until one day they'll learn to say "No Mom/Dad, I'm not interested." I'm not being cynical: children have their own minds and it's a really important growing step to find their own interest at some age. Well, if your kids are like you, they may have a slightly better chance of liking changing a flat tire than my kids, but don't expect it a…
I once took a computer build/repair class in college. I learned a couple neat things but it was overall a waste of time. Not a week after that class was over did my friend who took the same class ask me to build his computer. If you don't live it, you probably won't be it. If you've never done anything, you probably won't be able to do anything.