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exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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I've been 100% Office 365 web apps on Linux Chromium since around February. So far, I haven't hit a situation that has required spinning up my Windows 10 VM.

What do you do when you want to edit a document or compose an email offline?

I don't know. I'm in a US coastal megalopolis covered in cell data towers, so I haven't encountered that issue yet. I'm sure it will happen at some point, but I think the web apps have offline capability.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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I'll believe Microsoft loves Linux when I can install Microsoft Office in my desktop Linux machine. Everything else is marketing. Edit: to expand, the corporate world runs on Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook. Microsoft milks them on Windows/Office licensing and is very aggressive against organizations that try to do Linux deployments. They're a convicted monopolist that got away easily when at some point the option on the ta…

I'm not sure that "desktop Linux machine" is really a thing. I hate to feel that Linux has won servers and IoT, maybe mobile, but clearly lost desktop. Desktop is a dying thing by itself, so not bad after all.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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I would settle for just Skype for Business on Linux. No excuses why it shouldn't be on there... and yet it isn't.

Skype for Business has been replaced by teams which is not much better and pretty much still an awful chat application.

Being awful is Skype's killer feature. You can't carpet-bomb with pings, you can't comfortably copy and paste code or logs into it, half of devs who use linux don't bother running it on a VM and instead use flaky third-party clients, it eats messages randomly, so long story short - people generally avoid it except for trivial shit. And on the odd day when they don't, I get a copy on Outlook anyway.

I've read some horror stories about Slack, and I shudder to think what would happen if my company moved to it.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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This seems oddly specific and arbitrary. What if the engineering effort in porting it over is not economically viable?

Given the direction they're going with the web versions of Office 365, it's entirely possible that the future involves them deciding porting stuff to the Windows version is not economically viable and relegate the native apps to legacy support like IE.

That's actually kind of happened. One note program is no longer part of Microsoft office anymore. Instead you are suppose to use the onenote app. It's a hassle but you can install the old program and it's still much better than the app

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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By standard VFAT is required, but on most Windows PC, the UEFI partition is in NTFS.

UEFI partition is FAT32 (or EFI-FAT; EFI has their own specification of FAT, frozen in time, with it's own identifier), if not for other reason, that most UEFI implementations would not be able to boot from NTFS. Windows installer creates several partitions: System (ESP), MSR at the beginning of the disk and Recovery at the end of the disk.

Most UEFI implementations are loaded on Intel Windows devices, which is most likely to use TianoCore, reference implementation of UEFI which includes UEFI NTFS driver by default. I have seen that some low ends from Lenovo and Acer have its UEFI partition (ESP) formatted as NTFS.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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UEFI partition is FAT32 (or EFI-FAT; EFI has their own specification of FAT, frozen in time, with it's own identifier), if not for other reason, that most UEFI implementations would not be able to boot from NTFS. Windows installer creates several partitions: System (ESP), MSR at the beginning of the disk and Recovery at the end of the disk.

Most UEFI implementations are loaded on Intel Windows devices, which is most likely to use TianoCore, reference implementation of UEFI which includes UEFI NTFS driver by default. I have seen that some low ends from Lenovo and Acer have its UEFI partition (ESP) formatted as NTFS.

Are you sure? I had a look into edk2 and cannot find NTFS driver there. I can see the FAT one.

The NTFS support depends on device. From devices that I have around, Intel NUCs do support it, Asrock X399 board does not.

I have yet to see the Windows installer to create NTFS-based ESP partition. If manufacturer does that for specific device (where it is guaranteed, that it will support NTFS), that's different thing.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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> I'd also recommend avoiding the MacOS Office build for the same reason I never understood why they made it a effectively a different product. (Once you go past the trivial interaction) Different features, different behaviours, different problems. Why is excel for Mac not the same engine with a different UI?

Probably likely to do with the toolkit used to build the Windows version and inability or unwillingness to port it to Mac. They really need to start from scratch and build solid, easily testable product because the current methodology doesn't work. I especially love the bugs where when in one specific track changes mode typing in the comments section drops keys, or when using 'read aloud' the voice randomly changes g…

Honestly, Libre Office has better compatibility between office versions, then MS Office.

I also like Abi Word, but it's only a word processor, not a full suite. I keep it around because it will open damn near any word processing format.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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I was lucky enough that I never had to apply for a job with such requirements, but how does one learn about stuff like this?

Have friends that work/have worked as a recruiter :) PDF files aren't safe either. Even if you gave them a JPEG, they'd just transcribe your data into their own little CV template.

Sure they can, but they'll still try for a DOC file because that makes their lives easier.

The answer isn't to try to "beat" the recruiter with PDFs and JPEGs; the answer is to run away and find a more direct path to the employer.

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