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U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory: Marijuana Use and the Developing Brain

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

xena wrote: post #216
serf wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I couldn't function normally and had really tough trips, thinking about so many end results in the same time. Minutes took hours and basically it was an agony, while everybody had pretty joyful time laughing. Curiosity : Why did you continue for two years with such poor experiences?

Cannabis addiction is a bitch. It also is really tough to get off of. If you use too much too often, you can get crazy sweats, horrifying nightmares (that are more real than being awake), irritability and headaches that make you want to relapse. The worst part about cannabis addiction is it's mostly psychological.

Cannabis addiction, if that even exists, isn’t a bitch at all. Nicotine addiction is kind of a bitch. Opiate addiction is a bitch.

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Post by liability »

hprotagonist wrote: post #229
liability wrote: post #128

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My weed dealer when I was in highschool was a jackass wannabe-surfer (never saw the ocean) whom I didn't particularly like, but was totally harmless. I'd much rather betray him than a friend. I know it happens sometimes, but the stereotype that weed dealers are/were often violent criminals is a bit silly. I'm sure if you were buying in bulk from organized crime things could easily get dicy, but a teenager buying a di…

it's a QA issue not a "my dealer poses a threat" issue. You're right, 90% of dealers are shaun of the dead-type folks. I want a well-regulated market with solid CLIA-certified lab tests. I'm totally willing to pay the extra money for it.

Absolutely. Particularly, being reasonably sure I'm not breathing in toasted pesticides is a huge plus to the legal industry in my view. I generally trust that kind of stuff to be safe on raw fruit, but god knows what that stuff turns into if you burn it a little.

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Post by wolco »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #241
xena wrote: post #216

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Cannabis addiction is a bitch. It also is really tough to get off of. If you use too much too often, you can get crazy sweats, horrifying nightmares (that are more real than being awake), irritability and headaches that make you want to relapse. The worst part about cannabis addiction is it's mostly psychological.

Cannabis addiction, if that even exists, isn’t a bitch at all. Nicotine addiction is kind of a bitch. Opiate addiction is a bitch.

It does exist. It is a 'bitch' but those others are bastards.

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Post by true_tuna »

I’m glad this came out. It’s easy to forget that weed causes harm. Just from my own experience, when I’m on it I can’t think straight, can’t track a sentence from beginning to end. I can’t imagine where I’d be if those effects had applied long term as my brain was developing. Actually I can imagine. I’d be incapable of doing the high-paid, satisfying work I do now. I’d be stuck doing toilsome work with nowhere to go and a feeling that there’s more but I can’t quite grasp it.

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Post by birdyrooster »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #164
mrlala wrote: post #131

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Are the engineers you are referring to in developing brain stages? You are replying to OP who said from 16-18.. that is still fairly prime development.. your bay area engineers are probably mid 20's? That is quite different when we are talking about brain development.

They're probably referring to someone who starts getting high everyday, and quickly becomes "smoked out" - We all know someone like this. I used to get high a lot (when I was 21-23), and I stopped because I noticed myself becoming a shell of who I once was. When I wasn't high, nothing was fun anymore. It started off as saying things like "Bro this would be so much more fun if I was stoned", or "Dude, imagine getting…

I'll throw my hat in as one of those that has been smoked out practically 24/7 for the last seven years and haven't experienced these symptoms working at various big name tech companies as software engineer. I am glad to hear things are going better for you now!

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Post by birdyrooster »

xena wrote: post #216
serf wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I couldn't function normally and had really tough trips, thinking about so many end results in the same time. Minutes took hours and basically it was an agony, while everybody had pretty joyful time laughing. Curiosity : Why did you continue for two years with such poor experiences?

Cannabis addiction is a bitch. It also is really tough to get off of. If you use too much too often, you can get crazy sweats, horrifying nightmares (that are more real than being awake), irritability and headaches that make you want to relapse. The worst part about cannabis addiction is it's mostly psychological.

Any sources for these bold claims?

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Post by birdyrooster »

graphememes wrote: post #121
nenadg wrote: post #45

I smoked weed heavily from my ~16 to ~18. And I stopped because it was so overwhelming experience that I could not stand any more. I couldn't function normally and had really tough trips, thinking about so many end results in the same time. Minutes took hours and basically it was an agony, while everybody had pretty joyful time laughing. Now, I'm 38. I'm functional (so far), I have family with kids. I haven't develop…

Being in the bay area, I have witnessed what you expressed happen to many engineers since the legalization. They burn out quickly as well. They swear it's not weed since everyone else tells them that's all tinfoil hat stuff. It's very unfortunate.

Can you point to anything beyond anecdotes?

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Post by deelowe »

craftyguy wrote: post #221
rewgs wrote: post #207

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> The effects take years to decades for anything significant enough to precipitate. This sentence is weird to me. Can you rephrase?

They are trying to say that THC can cause depression, but it can take many years. I'm just clarifying (and not downvoting, like the rest of 'hacker' 'news'.. lol) and do not necessarily agree/disagree with OP

That doesn't sound like what they were trying to say.

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Post by whateveracct »

anon9001 wrote: post #240
whateveracct wrote: post #239

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I hate when people frame doing drugs in terms of needing them to have a good time. It's just a thing you do that affects your mind, like anything else. It's potentially more intense and definitely different than most other things, but acting like it's a crutch is existentially dishonest I think.

I'm not 100% sure I understand your comment, but I don't think it's dishonest to frame drug use as a crutch. One of the odd things about drugs is that if you do use them as a crutch (and I certainly do), then you are forfeiting recreational value. I smoke to feel "normal" and to avoid nightmares (it turns off dreaming, which is quite useful). That means I can't get "high" like non-potheads can. When I haven't smoked…

I feel everything you're saying.

When people call it a crutch, it's so disparaging and judgmental. I think if it makes your life better (like it clearly makes yours!), why associate guilt with the benefit?

Maybe in a vacuum, "crutch" _is_ a good term. Literal crutches help people after all! But there is definite stigma attached with the mindset.

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Post by birdyrooster »

hartator wrote: post #8
40acres wrote: post #3

My brother smoked heavily during his teens and as a result developed schizophrenia / substance induced psychosis. It was generally terrifying to see him unable to complete thoughts and lose his train of thought. He's fine now but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if you told me those years knocked a couple of points off his IQ. I'm for decriminalization and legalization but at the core we need funding for long term…

This. I am all for legalization but it’s not a safe drug. Induced schizophrenia by weed can be a thing if you carry a specific gene.

Please do not repeat unsourced, unsubstantiated claims with further unsourced, unsubstantiated claims. You are making bold proclamations that are not generally accepted and need extraordinarily high quality evidence to back them.
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