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Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by admax88q »

jonathansampson wrote: post #53
dymk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And not just that, they’ve moved/are moving to a model of displaying their own ads instead, which are invariably for some scammy crypto-of-the-day which even FB and Google ban from their ad platforms

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Brave has 2 ad-models (one still in the works). First, the User Model. In this model, user's must first opt-in to participate. If/when they do, advertisements are shown (at a user-controllable rate) as OS notifications. When a notification is shown, 70% of the revenue is deposited into the user's wallet. The second model is the Publisher Model; this is in the works now. U…

They're saying that the quality of the ads shown are terrible.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by lukemulks »

miguelmota wrote: post #20

Why doesn't brave adopt a stable coin like DAI for donations? Tokens are pretty volatile and it would suck for the publisher to lose money because they didn't cash out immediately. That won't be a problem though with DAI. https://www.coinbase.com/price/dai

(Brave employee) The BAT is used for more than contributions. The token has a distinct use case as the unit of account for attention and services on the platform.

https://basicattentiontoken.org/faq/#representation

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by admax88q »

trpc wrote: post #55
jonathansampson wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave isn't a theme to Chromium. We've made numerous changes to the underlying bits to strip out (or modify) anything that is not aligned with our principles of user-first, private and secure by default, and "Can't be evil." Before Brave, users were already installing ad and tracker blockers in large numbers. By 2015 over 600 million devices were blocking. This is the result of an entire set of technologies evolving…

Please don't speak as if you give a single damn about publishers. """Your""" adblocking system blocks the ads that publishers get revenue from, you're simply saying, YOU CAN ONLY MAKE MONEY THROUGH US. WITH OUR VIRTUAL WORTHLESS CRYPTOCURRENCY. With enough users, your worthless cryptocurrency won't become worthless anymore. The entire business model is disgusting and should be illegal to be honest.You're rebranding a…

Their business model is not nearly as disgusting as the modern advertisig business.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by pushcx »

snek wrote: post #33

Does brave still suck up money from people even when the site owner hasn't set up brave payments?

No, but they still haven't shown remorse for claiming those payments were held in escrow when in fact Brave held the payments, and planned to take them after 90 days. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18736743

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jonathansampson »

dymk wrote: post #69
jonathansampson wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Brave has 2 ad-models (one still in the works). First, the User Model. In this model, user's must first opt-in to participate. If/when they do, advertisements are shown (at a user-controllable rate) as OS notifications. When a notification is shown, 70% of the revenue is deposited into the user's wallet. The second model is the Publisher Model; this is in the works now. U…

We'll see how long that lasts once the VC money runs out. Blocking ads and displaying your own certainly is an "ad replacement" model though, and websites that don't want to participate have no choice.

Ads are being blocked, already, on hundreds of millions of devices. Brave users are usually former users of ad-blocking extensions in Chrome and Firefox. As such, these users were beyond the advertising system, far out of reach of Advertisers or Publishers. Brave changes this.

Brave brings security and privacy minded folks back into the system by offering a better deal for all parties. Users get paid without giving up data, Advertisers get better value for their spend. And Publishers don't have to weigh their sites down with third-party scripts to monetize content.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by lern_too_spel »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #11

Wikipedia joins Brave "Protection Scheme" you mean.

Not even that. Wikipedia doesn't show ads, so this announcement isn't saying that Wikipedia will automatically get BATs from Brave using visitors. It's saying Wikipedia has a verified BAT wallet that a tiny fraction of users of a browser with almost no users can donate their worthless tokens to. I'd be surprised if Wikipedia can buy a USB cable with the amount of money they get from this. This is just a worthless PR post from a slimy company.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by jonathansampson »

admax88q wrote: post #71
jonathansampson wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Brave has 2 ad-models (one still in the works). First, the User Model. In this model, user's must first opt-in to participate. If/when they do, advertisements are shown (at a user-controllable rate) as OS notifications. When a notification is shown, 70% of the revenue is deposited into the user's wallet. The second model is the Publisher Model; this is in the works now. U…

They're saying that the quality of the ads shown are terrible.

The types of ads shown by early participants is skewed toward blockchain and security topics. For many users, this is not very interesting. But the inventory changes and diversifies with time. We're seeing this happen today, already. The machine-learning model within the browser will also adapt over time, getting smarter and more attuned to your interests and habits.

Quality will increase with Time and Inventory. We're seeing positive trends here, as more and more diverse advertisers are lining up to join the platform.

Re: Wikipedia Is Now a Brave Verified Publisher

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Post by orblivion »

jonathansampson wrote: post #54
jchw wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC it was actually originally Firefox. I wonder what exactly made them switch?

This is correct. Note that both of our founders are from the Firefox team originally. Our CTO, Brian Bondy, originally built the first Brave prototype on the Gecko engine. Unfortunately, after much testing, it was clear that a modified Chromium would be the better route forward. You can imagine this was not a decision taken lightly, as both of these individuals have lived and breathed Gecko/Mozilla for years prior.

Would the story be different with Quantum now?
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