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exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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On the other side, file ACLs in NTFS are way more powerful than the Linux owner-group-world model.

That's true. But NTFS could also improve rather than simply adopting Linux's filesystems. Heck they could improve it then Open Source the new thing.

I think ReFS was supposed to be the next-gen version of NTFS, but it never really got much use.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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OMG, I can't believe we finally have a cross platform read/write disk format. At last. No more Fuse. I just need to know when it will be available for my Raspberry Pi.

I think you still need to use Fuse for exFAT on the BSDs...

That might eventually change with the recent patent grant.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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> I didn't hear back from prospective jobs that asked for a word format specifically This almost always means you're speaking to a recruiter who is going to strip your identity from the resume so they can hold it hostage for an agreed commission. This also puts your submission at a disadvantage because you're automatically 10% more expensive than the next guy. If you're submitting your job application, double check t…

I was lucky enough that I never had to apply for a job with such requirements, but how does one learn about stuff like this?

In my case, it was what I discovered after having it explained to me during a job interview why the salary I was asking for wasn’t feasible. The company straight up said they couldn’t afford on top of the recruiter’s commission. I had assumed the recruiter was representing the company, but after that experience I spent time learning about the murky side of recruitment.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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Given that Microsoft is a for-profit company, what's the financial justification for writing office for Linux on desktop? The market share isn't even a rounding error and you're talking about them investing tens of millions minimum into the development. The fact they have office on Android, iOS, and osx proves it's about market share and common sense, not some fabricated hatred or fear of Linux on the desktop.

> what's the financial justification for writing office for Linux on desktop? Well, the same argument could be applied to their open source contributions. Considering that [canonical corporate view is that] patented ideas are expensive to produce, and that exFAT is patented, what's the financial justication for open sourcing it (the specs or else)? The argument is ultimately against "Windows love Linux". The thesis o…

This argument can very easily be used against people who claim they love Linux and FOSS but they never really seem to be willing to part with the same amount of money other people are willing to give MS. Donating $300 for every copy of Libre Office you use would go a long way to making MS Office on Linux completely unneeded. Same goes for donating similar amounts for every Linux you install. I guess everyone's love has limits and it's usually money.

As for MS's contribution to open source you have to consider the difference in magnitude between the revenue that Office generates and the revenue that their other open source contributions do (would?). Then consider also the development effort involved.

It looks like OP just wants exactly what MS doesn't offer completely disregarding the alternatives, and I'm pretty sure they would not be willing to pay the markup for the extra development involved.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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"We are a totally trustworthy company, we screw only some of our customers."

In that segment? I would wonder something is wrong, if they didn't. Ideapads are in market segment, that is extremely price sensitive, but not quality-sensitive. If the competition would cost 10 bucks less, it would be a huge win for them, so everyone tries to minimize price while preserving margins as much as possible. In the end, these devices do ship with Windows, which has privacy problems anyway. All this is moo…

To each his own, in my opinion consumer market for laptops being a trash fire doesn't excuse putting malware on them.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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> I thought it was for optical media only. Nope, although it is most commonly used on optical media it is not restricted to only optical media. From the wikipedia article: Specifications The UDF standard defines three file system variations, called "builds". These are: Plain (Random Read/Write Access). This is the original format supported in all UDF revisions ... Plain build Introduced in the first version of the st…

Have you used it IRL ? How does it fare performance wise ?

I've been using it for some number of years now on USB sticks that are larger than 2G (to avoid the 2G file size limit of Fat32) for file transfer to/from the work machine.

I have had zero issues with it from Linux or Win (I think I started using it when the "work pc" was Win7, but am not 100% sure of that). It has just worked, with no problems, for my use cases.

Performance wise, well, the performance is limited by the USB sticks (they are USB2 sticks) so from what I can tell, UDF is not the limiter, the USB2 interface or the flash cells in the stick are the performance limiter.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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How often are people taking a microSD card from their camera and putting it in their phone considering on a lot of devices this means pulling the battery out. Also they could support fat while not having the main system storage using fat.

Main system storage didn't use FAT; /sdcard did.

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Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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> I'd also recommend avoiding the MacOS Office build for the same reason I never understood why they made it a effectively a different product. (Once you go past the trivial interaction) Different features, different behaviours, different problems. Why is excel for Mac not the same engine with a different UI?

I actually thought that this is what they were doing: https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-microsoft-is-taking-on-the...

Hmm... Maybe I'm using something from before this project was finished. The support pages claim that the latest versions have the same behaviours between Win and Mac for the features I was interested in. May be time to upgrade.

Re: exFAT in the Linux kernel

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> To this end, we will be making Microsoft’s technical specification for exFAT publicly available to facilitate development of conformant, interoperable implementations.

How about their FAT patents??

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