Daring Fireball: Why Next Week's Event Is Hosted by Verizon, Not Apple • Hacker News Board

Re: Daring Fireball: Why Next Week's Event Is Hosted by Verizon, Not Apple

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Post by alwillis » Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 8:14 AM UTC

seiji wrote: post #12

kylec wrote: post #2

I don't know, I think it's much more likely that letting Verizon host the event was a concession made to retain other control, like keeping Verizon branding off the device and letting Apple publish software updates without Verizon review.

AT&T does approve all iPhone software updates.

Seriously? No, AT&T does not approve Apple’s software updates. There’s clearly a separation between AT&T the carrier and Apple who manufactures the iPhone and updates iOS. I’d be shocked if it were any different with Verizon.

Re: Daring Fireball: Why Next Week's Event Is Hosted by Verizon, Not Apple

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Post by alwillis » Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 8:23 AM UTC

tzs wrote: post #8

kylec wrote: post #2

I don't know, I think it's much more likely that letting Verizon host the event was a concession made to retain other control, like keeping Verizon branding off the device and letting Apple publish software updates without Verizon review.

If the issue came up at all, I would expect Apple dealt with it easily by saying one word to Verizon: "Sprint".

I’m pretty sure Sprint was never a serious consideration for Apple. AT&T is the second biggest network; it wouldn't make sense for Apple to pursue the 3rd or 4th player.

Apple approached Verizon (the largest carrier in the US) before talking to AT&T, which agreed not having seen even a prototype of the iPhone.

Apple and Verizon both needed this deal for different reasons. There are lots of people who covet the iPhone but absolutely won't switch to AT&T. That'll no longer be an issue.

Re: Daring Fireball: Why Next Week's Event Is Hosted by Verizon, Not Apple

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 8:27 AM UTC

"And if Verizon wants to do some on-stage bragging about the ways that their network is better than AT&T’s, Apple can’t really be a part of that. Apple is not leaving AT&T for Verizon."

I'm sure Apple is completely indifferent about moving, what is the latest guess, 10 million more iPhones?

Re: Daring Fireball: Why Next Week's Event Is Hosted by Verizon, Not Apple

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Post by junkbit » Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 2:37 PM UTC

I'm sure it will sell well, and I know how much current iPhone users hate the AT&T network, but after four generations of iPhones are there really that many people who wanted one that have been holding back?

In the UK you can get iPhones on 5 networks as well as unlocked, yet Android is still growing in a similar pattern. The whole pie is growing rapidly though it is hard to tell. Mmmm, pie.