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Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

loire280 wrote: post #66
T_S_ wrote: post #50

Too little too late. I just got off a call with my wife (SV to the Bay Bridge, iPhone to iPhone) and it only dropped 4 times. I just relocated to my number to SV a couple of months ago and I only had to call 4 times to get all the features back to what they were. Plus I got over being mad about having no message at all for callers to my old number. Also, I really don't mind calling AT&T every couple of months to find…

AT&T's reception problems seem to be mostly concentrated in a few large cities -- most notably NY and SV/San Fransisco. I'm a longtime AT&T customer and recent iPhone owner. I've lived in Milwaukee and Phoenix, and their reception is on par with the other carriers in those cities. NY and SV are, in my opinion, the last places you'd want poor service (because it will be discussed nationwide), but I don't think that th…

This coincides with my experiences: travelling to NY or SF turns my iPhone into an iPod touch. However, it works flawlessly in the very flat region of Virginia where I live.

It's my understanding that GSM is more prone to geographic disruption, hills in SF and buildings in NYC, than CDMA.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by irq »

brown9-2 wrote: post #30
rottencupcakes wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been running iPhones on T-Mobile since 2007. The reason this is so big is because the iPhone currently doesn't support CDMA.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you jailbreak your iPhone and use it on T-Mobile's network you will only be able to use the EDGE/2G network as the iPhone's 3G radio uses different frequencies than T-Mobile's 3G network. Makes the choice seem a little backwards then doesn't it?

You're correct, except that it is "unlocking" that allows you to use an AT&T iPhone on another carrier. "Jailbreaking" is completely different - it simply allows you to install unsigned software.

One must jailbreak their iPhone before it can be unlocked, because you need to run special, unsigned software to unlock it.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by Umalu »

rscott wrote: post #13
blinkingled wrote: post #6

Hopefully this time it is real - not because I am going to buy one but because the "analysts" can finally shut up and end their endless hype/crusade of Verizon iPhone.

Out of curiosity, does anyone seriously know who these "analysts" are and what their job actually entails?

Every quarter the publicly-traded tech companies hold earnings calls. After the company gives its spiel, it allows the analysts to ask questions. These calls are open to the public, and I suggest you listen in on one for a company you know well; the questions you hear will tell you pretty much all you need to know about these analysts.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by jsz0 »

T_S_ wrote: post #50

Too little too late. I just got off a call with my wife (SV to the Bay Bridge, iPhone to iPhone) and it only dropped 4 times. I just relocated to my number to SV a couple of months ago and I only had to call 4 times to get all the features back to what they were. Plus I got over being mad about having no message at all for callers to my old number. Also, I really don't mind calling AT&T every couple of months to find…

Is Verizon any better in that respect? I remember Verizon getting slammed for mysterious data charges and famously it took them years to sort out their FIOS billing system. I don't think of Verizon as a company with a reputation for great customer support. I would actually consider switching to Verizon simply because AT&T can't seem to figure out how to make my auto pay work correctly. It fails every month. I wait for them to call and they assure me it will work next time and of course it doesn't. The last AT&T rep I talked to about this actually said "it probably won't work" which in a strange way was a satisfying answer to me. Better than the drone-like confidence in "THE SYSTEM" most of these support departments rely on.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by jsz0 »

doron wrote: post #58
runjake wrote: post #28

No LTE, the infamous metal strip will be almost complete flush with glass top & bottom, metal strip will only be segmented once, instead of 3 times, mostly resembles an iPhone 4 otherwise. Talk & data simultaneously. No Vzw bloat on board. iOS 4.3.x (just changes for cdma). If you're considering downvoting this, wait until Tuesday to do so :)

If true. I wonder about the possibility of No Vzw bloat on board, how will that effect the sales of android, will the Iphone cost more as a "Premium" clean phone?

Verizon is pretty clever. They'll probably just create an iPhone Plan that is 50 cents more a month and over 2 years you've paid for the privilege of not having bloatware forced on you. I don't think they would dare charge more than AT&T for the hardware itself since consumers are so fixated on the sticker price and easily misled on the longer term costs of the contract they're signing. I always figured the incredibly pricey cases & accessories are a big factor here too. If you show up, buy an iPhone, and walk out with a $30-$40 case they've probably made more money off you than VZW bloat would have.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by lusis »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #40
lusis wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talk and data at the same time isn't technologically possible on cdma. How do you figure they'll pull it off?

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/simultaneous-voice-data-comin...

Ahhhh. I had missed that article last year. Thanks!

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

joshu wrote: post #8

I am absurdly excited about this, mostly because I am in hate with my Droid. However, the gmail and contacts integration on Droid is top notch. Am I going to be less happy on iphone?

You're really limiting yourself not using a just even slightly newer phone. CM6 or even CM7 on the Droid Inc is waaaay faster than on my D1.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by jpcx01 »

TheCoreh wrote: post #46

This carrier exclusivity thing on the US amuses me. In the end, consumers are the ones hurt, 'cause it limits the available choices. Here in Brazil we have regulatory agencies that set up rules against that kind of thing. SIM locking by carriers is also illegal here. (Not actually illegal , but they're legally required to unlock the phones for you without additional cost) I'm pretty sure a lot of other countries have…

I agree. It's a completely anticompetitive practice and should be regulated.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Post by abhiyerra »

wtn wrote: post #54
aikinai wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on what you mean by "not available for use." Any standard T-mobile plan that includes data (even the $5 T-Zones plan) will work with the iPhone. The only problem is that it's Edge-only.

True, you can possibly rig it up with an unlocked AT&T or other non-T-Mobile contract bound phone.

What I do with my iPhone 3G. But as parent said data is only on EDGE.
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