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Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm crossing my fingers on T-Mobile. I gave my mom a jailbroken iPhone 3G a few months ago, after she returned her third consecutive T-Mobile feature phone in as many weeks. She's never been happier with a phone ('so easy to use,' 'doesn't make me feel like an idiot,' 'so many capabilities'), and I'd love to get her onto an up-to-date one with 3G data capabilities. I'd just tell her to move onto AT&T but, in my exper…

Really? I've never once had an issue with my iPhone 4 and AT&T anywhere in the Twin Cities. I have perfect 3G coverage pretty much everywhere I go.

I've had spotty reception trouble around Minneapolis, but Uptown has always been the worst. For instance, I usually can only get a single bar of reception inside Spyhouse on 25th and Hennepin on my iPhone 4, and 2 outside if I'm lucky.

Also, I should mention that this experience was from Summer 2010. Maybe there were some issues with ATT's network in July, or maybe they've been bringing a lot more capacity online over the past few months.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Device specs for the Verizon iPhone 4 can be found here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2548&c=verizon... EDIT: Just so I can understand what I've done wrong, would one of the down-voters please explain why the specs leaked in March/April last year are not relevant? Thanks!

Since it claims the phone will be running 4.0.2, I'd say these are a little more speculation than fact.

Heck, you always need take leaked specs with a grain of salt, if not a whole shaker of salt, a lime, and a shot of tequila. I think your down-vote was a bit reactionary.

Those leaked specs have been on the pdadb for at least 9 months even though the device was only just officially announced during CES this week. I think the verizon iphone specs have been up there since shortly before (March 2010) the release of the iPhone 4 (June 2010), hence the iOS version it was claimed to be running (during the end of development/prototyping). The first "preview" of iOS 4.x was in April 2010.

Similar was true for Droid2 and Droid2-Global specs being available 9-12 months prior to device releases/announcements. In both those cases, the leaked specs matched up very well with the eventually released products.

Even when a device is "finished" (hardware engineering-wise) the lead times for manufacturing ramp-up and marketing build-up can be many months.

EDIT: Added rough dates to leak and iOS releases

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Providers in the rest of the world have been rapidly losing iPhone exclusivity in the last few years and months. AT&T shouldn’t be surprised and certainly shouldn’t be pissed. It’s honestly surprising that they had the iPhone exclusively for such a long time.

It seems obvious to me that it’s not in Apple’s best interest to let AT&T keep the iPhone all for itself, not at this point in time.

Does anyone know why AT&T had the iPhone exclusively in the first place? Did Apple actually want that to happen or was it merely a concession to get AT&T to accept Apple’s demands?

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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The WSJ has had a particularly good record on Apple announcements shortly before they happen (the iPad announcement, the case program in response to antennagate), so I think we can be pretty confident about this.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Hopefully this time it is real - not because I am going to buy one but because the "analysts" can finally shut up and end their endless hype/crusade of Verizon iPhone.

Out of curiosity, does anyone seriously know who these "analysts" are and what their job actually entails?

I've wondered about the same. Here is the public info about one such analyst Gene Munster - http://www.piperjaffray.com/1col.aspx?id=7&analystid=131 . Some choice bits - "specializing in Internet" , "holds a bachelor's degree in financial management and new venture strategies from the University of St. Thomas" "coverage includes Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, Baidu, and MercadoLibre" . Sounds like a good gig to me!

Someone should compile information about these tech analysts, their educational qualifications, their official job details (organizations they work for, job duties they perform over a typical year, their goals and objectives etc.), the data they work off of, their predictions from 2008 onwards, hit/miss ratio, stock price fluctuations attributable to their predictions and any other interesting tidbits.

May be something sinister will come out of it or may be not - but it will still be interesting to look at.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Looks like all the "groundless" speculation was dead on. A Verizon iPhone has been predicted for a long time, and we knew that there was an exclusivity contract with ATT whose term had to be met, but the claims of vapor have gone up in a puff of smoke. I know of several people who wanted iPhones but refused to give up Verizon's cell network for ATT. The biggest gap in cell network satisfaction--based on the word of m…

> the claims of vapor have gone up in a puff of smoke.

Really? Sure, it's finally happened, but people have been predicting a Verizon iPhone "next week / month / quarter" for, literally, years. It was practically inevitable, seeing as Apple has no ideological qualms with multiple distributers in other countries.

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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No LTE, the infamous metal strip will be almost complete flush with glass top & bottom, metal strip will only be segmented once, instead of 3 times, mostly resembles an iPhone 4 otherwise. Talk & data simultaneously. No Vzw bloat on board. iOS 4.3.x (just changes for cdma).

If you're considering downvoting this, wait until Tuesday to do so :)

Re: Verizon to finally get iPhone

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Fingers crossed that T-mobile won't be too far behind. I really love my T-mobile plan.

People have been running iPhones on T-Mobile since 2007. The reason this is so big is because the iPhone currently doesn't support CDMA.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you jailbreak your iPhone and use it on T-Mobile's network you will only be able to use the EDGE/2G network as the iPhone's 3G radio uses different frequencies than T-Mobile's 3G network.

Makes the choice seem a little backwards then doesn't it?

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