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the toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil
Have vegans given up their cars yet? Veganism is a nice gesture, but really vegans need to step it up and ditch the cars if they care about the Earth.
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Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. A cutting-edge vegan discussion is whether lab-grown meant can be vegan. An animal need not have a brain to be an animal. And an animal grown in a vat is still an animal.
> Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. I'm curious: what foods fall under this? Edit: I meant "what foods are OK to eat under this definition?"
After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…
This has given me more ideas on what to cook without meat besides, Indian food or pasta.
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> Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. I'm curious: what foods fall under this? Edit: I meant "what foods are OK to eat under this definition?"
Honey is the biggie. Also figs.
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Yes. If you had the choice between having a child that would live its entire life in agony, or not having that child, I think it's obvious which is better. No. For the same reason that murdering your 4 year old is not ethically equivalent to using birth control.
Should we sterilize animals in the wild since they suffer too, possibly even more than animals in captivity?
It's not about taking suffering away. Animals born in the wild live their life naturally. Animals created by us in farms are raised for one thing, for human consumption. If an animal wants to run away in wild and do it's thing, it has that choice. In captivity, we force the choice humans made for them.
Basically if we have slightest amount of empathy for our pets and are willing to apply that to other animals, eating meat doesn't look enticing.
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Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. A cutting-edge vegan discussion is whether lab-grown meant can be vegan. An animal need not have a brain to be an animal. And an animal grown in a vat is still an animal.
> Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. I'm curious: what foods fall under this? Edit: I meant "what foods are OK to eat under this definition?"
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People aren't going to start keeping the equivalent numbers of livestock as pets. If factory farmed animals fall out of fashion, most of these animals will all die without reproducing and their bloodlines will cease to exist. I agree that factory farming isn't ideal, but it seems to me that it is less ideal from the perspective of the animal for their entire bloodline to be terminated. To make a strong argument again…
"The question really comes down to whether or not you consider the opportunity to experience life, even a particularly difficult life, as a blessing." A life born of slavery, torture, and slaughter is not a life worth living. An animal doesn't really have the idea of a bloodline or legacy (just the primal urge to reproduce). The rationalization that a life of suffering is somehow doing the animal a favor is just asin…
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> eating animals is very nutritious—it's just not sufficient. No. It's not. I like Dr. Fuhrman's equation: H=N/C. This equation expresses the concept that your health (H) is predicted by your nutrient intake (N) divided by your calorie intake (C). There's not a lot of nutrients in meat (all you get really is protein and iron), whereas in vegetables/fruits you get a whole vast assortment of proteins, vitamins, fiber,…
I cannot even begin to point out all the falsehoods in your post. If you made it in good faith, please examine your views, otherwise stop trolling.
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Is it better for a being to not exist entirely than suffer? If so, then would this imply that if animals suffer even more in the wild that they should be wiped out?
The answer to the existence question depends on what you consider to be more valuable: life or suffering. As to the second question, that is an active topic of research: https://foundational-research.org/the-importance-of-wild-ani... with some info on Wikipedia as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_animal_suffering#Ecology_...
From my perspective, the conclusion seems to be wrong, and thus I deny the first premise.
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That doesn't make sense. A huge amount of vegan dishes have never been made with animal products and were never designed to be made with animal products
A vegan is someone who refuses to eat any animal products. I don't see why all traditional dishes that don't contain animals products should suddenly be labeled vegan. They are suitable for vegan people but I don't want veganism to hijack traditional cultures.
Yes, that is the definition of vegan as a noun. As an adjective vegan is describing food using or containing no animal products
i.e. traditional dishes that don't contain animal products are technically vegan, just like all other dishes that don't contain animal products
It's absolutely not hijacking traditional culture. I'm not mandating they call that dish vegan, I'm not saying that it is an american vegan dish, I'm simply saying that there are plenty of traditional dishes that are vegan by definition. Hummus, as an example