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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by superpermutat0r »

nightski wrote: post #140
schnevets wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, it's less about new products and more about people's tastes. People are eating very different things now because of new popularity in some cuisines (Indian, Thai, and Mexican come to mind) and the popularity of "superfoods" (Avocado, Acai berry... ever notice there are never any animal-based superfoods?).

Ahh yes, these super-foods that get transported half way around the world for us to consume. Much better for the environment.

These super foods are grown in such minuscule amounts that the impact is incomparable to the soybeans from Argentina being fed to pigs in Denmark, or Brazilian soy raising billions of chickens, pigs and cows in China.

Energy wasted on growing plants that feed humans directly is feeding a 1st order process. Energy wasted on growing plants that feed animals that feed humans indirectly is feeding a 2nd order process.

Animals need to keep their body warm, grown their body, have immunity, give birth, grow offspring inside their body and then after all that they give you milk and meat.

Incomparable.

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Post by ravenstine »

ultim8k wrote: post #31

Too bad that vegan food is mostly carbs and tasteless stuff like tofu. There are so many tasty and healthy vegetables and great veggie recipes but you have to cook at home because you can't find them outside.

> Too bad that vegan food is mostly carbs

That's the one thing that keeps me away from a lot of vegan food, as much as I do admit that vegan food has gotten way better than it used to be.

I have a voracious appetite, and the best way I've been able to prevent myself from gaining weight again is to limit my carb and sugar intake. I'm occasionally tempted by vegan food, but when I find out the nutrition info, I know I can't sustain just consuming a ton of carbs. Maybe if I didn't have a job where I have to sit down in front of a computer all day, things would be different.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by miles »

coldpie wrote: post #130
gwbas1c wrote: post #91

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My stomach, ect, feel better when I eat less meat. But: I rarely order vegan in a restaurant. I find it's much easier to do vegan at home. Why? Mostly food safety and storage. After cooking vegan for a few weeks, when I cooked meat, I realized just how much of a pain in the *$$ maintaining food safety is.

> ect I keep seeing this. Where are people picking this up from?

I notice more people are putting ect. instead of etc. Why? https://www.quora.com/I-notice-more-people-are-putting-ect-i...

ect. | Common Errors in English Usage and More https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/25/ect/

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by astura »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #110
i_am_nomad wrote: post #108

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If you don’t mind me asking, how did you become lactose intolerant? I don’t know much about that aspect of biology.

You don’t become lactose intolerant; you become lactose tolerant via genetic mutation. This is a mutation that originated in Northern Europe but not in east or South Asia.

One does not "become lactose tolerant," humans are born lactose tolerant, after all their primary food for the first few months of life is milk. A lactose intolerant baby is very rare.

Lactose intolerance happens with age in X% of the population. The ones who don't become lactose intolerance simply retain their lactase production that they've always have had.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by deevolution »

slothtrop wrote: post #149
strict9 wrote: post #16

After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…

Also, health and nutrition. Among health nuts many who consume meat advocate reducing intake whilst increasing legumes and veg. Even aping the popular aggregate "blue-zone" diets and the Mediterranean diet (the most researched of all) will lead to more restricted meat consumption than the standard western diet permits. For those who like to heavily politicize diet, this is a perspective that gets buried by absolutist…

Avoiding meat consumption eliminates all dietary cholesterol intake, which is awesome for heart health.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by criddell »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #80
criddell wrote: post #76

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Definitions of social things are never that rigid. Was my grandmother a teetotaler? The only alcohol she ever consumed for the last 70 years of her life was a tiny bit of wine during communion every few weeks.

These definitions are rigid. Anyone can do something they are not supposed to once in a while but 'vegan' and 'vegetarian' do mean that you refuse to eat animal products or meat, not that you don't eat much of them.

> Anyone can do something they are not supposed to

What do you mean not supposed to? My grandmother wasn't supposed to drink? Her being a teetotaler was just the result of her daily choices. That's what eating vegan meals is for me.

Do you have to explicitly choose to be a vegan? If prisoners were fed 100% vegan diets and had no options for outside foods, would they be vegans? I guess I'm wondering if intent matters just as much as action, or is one or the other good enough?

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by deevolution »

nightski wrote: post #140
schnevets wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, it's less about new products and more about people's tastes. People are eating very different things now because of new popularity in some cuisines (Indian, Thai, and Mexican come to mind) and the popularity of "superfoods" (Avocado, Acai berry... ever notice there are never any animal-based superfoods?).

Ahh yes, these super-foods that get transported half way around the world for us to consume. Much better for the environment.

Buy local. Takes a second to glance at the distributor location - though it's not always clear when buying fresh unpackaged fruit and veggies where they were sourced from. Personally I'd like to see more of that information available at supermarkets and online.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by dontbenebby »

Could part of this be the rise of non-American restaurants?

If I'm eating say, thai I don't "order vegan" - but a tofu based curry may be vegan.

Vegan food, done well, is pretty great. But there's a steep learning curve with the spices etc, so I tend to eat out for it.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by dgellow »

sandworm101 wrote: post #144
mattl wrote: post #126

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Generally vegan meats meat-fish-seafood-and-dairy-free when you see it on a generic packaging or restaurant. Kosher at least in the US usually comes with a symbol and you know the ones that are legit (Orthodox Union is the most common in the US, the (U) symbol Ⓤ)

Vegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. A cutting-edge vegan discussion is whether lab-grown meant can be vegan. An animal need not have a brain to be an animal. And an animal grown in a vat is still an animal.

> An animal need not have a brain to be an animal.

How does that work? If I grew a chicken breast in lab, without the rest of the chicken, that's not an animal, right?

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