Very sad indeed. It might just be semantic, but it seems that this person died from wounds inflicted during childhood, it just took a while for him to succumb.
Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
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Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was really sad. I'm a Christian, but fully recognize there is some sickening hypocrisy in the 'Christian' world (and probably all religious and non-religious groups), but it's especially sick when these attitudes are propagated by supposed love. Truly, 'they worship me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me'. This makes me question anything that supports rape fantasies. Anything that would even remote…
Not brave enough to stand up for censorship with your own account? I voted you down. I don't think your comment has any meaningful place in this thread. It should go without saying that you shouldn't use someone's death to soapbox about censorship or any other unrelated topic.
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Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not brave enough to stand up for censorship with your own account? I voted you down. I don't think your comment has any meaningful place in this thread. It should go without saying that you shouldn't use someone's death to soapbox about censorship or any other unrelated topic.
Like my other account is any less anonymous? (didn't realize I was signed in with this account). Journalistic convention is more related to the topic?? We've just found out about someone that suffered through a hell-filled life because of some sicko's fantasy. I'd hope we would try and figure out a way to spare others the same aweful fate.
Damn. Getting all teary-eyed reading the posts in the other thread. Life on this little rock can be so hard sometimes... RIP Bill.
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's quoting a comment from Anil Dash. (More of the comment is quoted in the body of the article.)
That may be true, however there is still quite a disconnect between the intended "quoting" and resulting 'scare quote' issue. Basically, without knowing the quote, it adds a pile of sarcasm to the title roughly equivalent to: so-called smart guy kills himself It's just sad.
wow, I couldn't believe it either. A scare quote headline with a full suicide note republished. I did notice no one at the Huffington Post would attach their name to this trash.
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#26While I never suffered the molestation, I can still relate to this guy. I also came from a fundementalist background that I’m only now coping with in middle age thanks to health consuling, a support group, and a family who have likewise forsaken those closeminded ways in favor of a more loving, “truer” version of the faith.
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#27It's quite incredible that the Huffington Post posted the entire suicide note, particularly without a warning before it. In any case, I'm disturbed and outraged by the religious comments (ranging from wishing him well in the next phase of his life to saying how much God loves everyone even despite this to how he should forgive himself for the suicide). I thought respect was fundamental to religion.
Unfortunately, it's not. I couldn't find the comments you mentioned, but the unfortunate fact is that many religious people are (at best) a shadow of what their beliefs are based on. I say this as a devout (but not fundamentalist) Christian. This entire article grieves me–including his descriptions of how his father treated him. No matter what choices my kids make, I could never treat them that way.
I mean no personal disrespect towards you, but you're implying that religions are themselves tolerant and respectful, and that people are flawed for not being able to "live up" to them. In reality, religions tend not to be tolerant and respectful, and criticizing people in general for not being "good enough" to live up to a religious standard is unfair.
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be sure to mind BigZaphod's comment in that thread about the suicide note.
It seems this wish is being fullfilled: Tumblr: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/suicide?before=1294400750 Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/46479466/Bill-Zeller-Suicide-Note Also, his twitter account is alive (his last tweet is from last year): http://twitter.com/billzeller
His friend asked for help on HN and posted the suicide note, but later deleted it. http://documents.from.bz/note.txt
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2059862
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, it's not. I couldn't find the comments you mentioned, but the unfortunate fact is that many religious people are (at best) a shadow of what their beliefs are based on. I say this as a devout (but not fundamentalist) Christian. This entire article grieves me–including his descriptions of how his father treated him. No matter what choices my kids make, I could never treat them that way.
I mean no personal disrespect towards you, but you're implying that religions are themselves tolerant and respectful, and that people are flawed for not being able to "live up" to them. In reality, religions tend not to be tolerant and respectful, and criticizing people in general for not being "good enough" to live up to a religious standard is unfair.
implying that religions are themselves
I take issue with even that much of the concept. Religions are not entities, only the people that make them up are.
And it seems the unfortunately vast majority of the time, those people are hateful, ignorant, or just plain dulled.
Re: Princeton Grad Student And 'Brilliant' Programmer, Dies In Apparent Suicide
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That may be true, however there is still quite a disconnect between the intended "quoting" and resulting 'scare quote' issue. Basically, without knowing the quote, it adds a pile of sarcasm to the title roughly equivalent to: so-called smart guy kills himself It's just sad.
wow, I couldn't believe it either. A scare quote headline with a full suicide note republished. I did notice no one at the Huffington Post would attach their name to this trash.
search for the text "Filed by", its there, its just buried in the 800 things huffpo crams on a page.