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Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by kkarakk »

n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

The only time people jump onboard google products is at launch. Being the premier tech company in the world that actually launches things like this brings significant network effects that help boost these products past noise threshold.

After that it doesn't matter coz you'll probably move on to the next company(2-3 years) and it won't matter that the google product you adopted failed/was shut down since you'll be in a different tech time/space continuum bubble and will have adopted newer things.

This is really a problem of Google just not bothering to invest in things long term. It's a known problem and I don't think Google cares coz none of these products really disrupt the market or bring in the big bucks which is all tech giants care about.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by atdt »

This is a good decision, reflecting the wisdom of Silenus, who, legend goes, once mused that the best thing is not to be born, and if already born, to die quickly. Google is intent on gaining the lead in Cloud, and this was a distraction from that.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by kkarakk »

mrbonner wrote: post #183

I just have the worst nightmare: Google abandons Photo. I have all my photos synced in Google Photo and remove duplicate in my iPhone. If they shut it down, am I screwed?

Google is very very very very nice about product sunsetting - generous timelines and no bandwidth throttling. Also photos and videos are part of their core business now, i don't think they'd ever abandon the space unless something seriously disrupted the market.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by tylerl »

n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

Bebop was an acqui-hire, not a real product. All they wanted was the CEO. I don't think anyone took the product seriously except for the person who started it, and once she left Google, there was no reason to continue pretending that it was a real thing.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by tylerl »

nkingsy wrote: post #171
n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

Seems like these non billion user products could be sold off rather than killed. The cost to ready the software to live outside google would be worth it for the goodwill alone.

This one was never worth running from the beginning. It existed mostly to prevent a specific person from feeling bad.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by dillondoyle »

iamsb wrote: post #109
adventured wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube is of course obviously safe. Google Cloud as a whole is also safe. It's the individual given products you have to worry about disappearing. It's already a very large business. Even in third place it's going to be at least a $15-$20 billion business over time. They're not shutting that down. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-arr-earnings-8-...

Given the speed with which youtube is demonetizing people or outright banning them, not sure how much longer it will sustain though.

This argument doesn't hold weight for me. Google demonetizes because advertisers don't want their ads on that content - and that is true no matter what platform.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by nateps »

jacob_rezi wrote: post #165
nateps wrote: post #132

I'm the founder and CTO of Lever, YC S12. I also worked at Google as a PM prior to founding Lever. Let me know how I can help if anyone has questions! We're a great alternative to Google Hire.

Wow cool to find you like this. We built a resume software which focuses exactly on working with ats ( https://rezi.io/ ) We plan to make resume formats specific to certain types of ATS, Lever being amongst the first we hope to work with. Any way this message can spark that conversation? Our users & hiring partners love the idea.

Send me a note, @lever.co, and we'll take it from there!

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by nateps »

generalpf wrote: post #126
nateps wrote: post #79

I'm the founder and CTO of Lever ( https://www.lever.co ), a similar product and part of YC S12. I recommend you check us out! I was also a PM at Google from 2007-2011. A big part of why I left and founded Lever is that I'm super passionate about enterprise software, and vertical enterprise software (even in huge markets) isn't aligned well with Google's core business.

I use Lever at work and it’s absolutely excellent.

Thank you! I appreciate the support. Means a lot.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by rurban »

markmark wrote: post #39
aeternum wrote: post #5

Companies are going to avoid new Google offerings given this behavior. They marketed Hire by Google hard. Glad we didn't sign up and waste integration effort on this.

Are going to? They already are. I will no longer consider a Google product for work purposes. Even for big stuff they are committed to like their cloud offering there is no confidence that individual features within it they you rely on won't get killed off.

What about to Go? Or Flutter? They are the best in their niche.
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