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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by maximente »

koolba wrote: post #40
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

> Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it might help them cut down on calories and improve their health image. Which is “less gross” is highly objective. > I wonder what impact it'll have on climate change when McDonalds stops buying real beef. Would be a nice longbet, “ McDonald’s will stop selling beef burgers by 20XY ”. I’d be on the “no” side of that bet.

it's a matter of volume. i don't expect beef to go away but the volume sold will massively decrease. there will always be the "real deal" crowd who will pay higher prices for it.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by Djvacto »

VectorLock wrote: post #58
dymk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is confused when they buy this product that it’s animal based meat. The packaging is very clear about what it is. It’s called meat because it tastes and feels like meat. It’s a perfectly cromulent word to use because it describes what the product is.

When you give it a name that alludes to it being meat you're setting the product up for failure because people will ofcourse compare it to meat and since its not meat they will judge it as "worse."

So, what could we call Turkey Burgers?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by Dirlewanger »

VectorLock wrote: post #58
dymk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is confused when they buy this product that it’s animal based meat. The packaging is very clear about what it is. It’s called meat because it tastes and feels like meat. It’s a perfectly cromulent word to use because it describes what the product is.

When you give it a name that alludes to it being meat you're setting the product up for failure because people will ofcourse compare it to meat and since its not meat they will judge it as "worse."

I imagine it's easier to compare it to a burger than it is to spend marketing dollars on a new plant-based sandwich. I also imagine that because it's comparable to a burger, you're not alienating those who are on the margin that still like meat, but are open to trying a plant-based "burger".

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by xiii1408 »

tehlike wrote: post #17
thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked at KFC for several years in Australia, the chicken was quite fresh.

All of the fastfood chains based in united states have much better quality abroad.

I agree this is generally true, but it definitely depends on the country you're talking about.

Many other first-world countries (thinking of EU, etc.) have much stricter rules about food additives, etc. So the bread, for example, tastes significantly less cardboard-ey.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by mc32 »

_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

Another advantage could be less susceptibility as a host for bacterial and other undesirable growth. Fewer recalls means willing consumers.

On the other hand I’d like to see studies on the healthiness of consuming these products long term. Intuitively they’d seem healthier, but I’d like to see that proven given their synthetic nature.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by dymk »

untog wrote: post #59
dymk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The milk industrial complex feels very strongly about it, and has litigated ruthlessly to prevent non-mammal produced milk from having the word milk in it

And yet actual real-life customers are absolutely fine with it and aren't confused.

Exactly, it’s existing entrenched industries who are worried; this is altogether good for consumers though

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by ukyrgf »

_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

I just hope it isn't half-assed and they don't give up. I've noticed the newer Burger King commercials say the meatless Whopper is only available for a limited time.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by tyingq »

hervature wrote: post #41
thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #10

I think it is a rather toxic movement that we are continuing to label things that which they are not. "fried plant-based ‘chicken’" it makes no sense at all A lot of it is egged on by the vegan/vegetarians and is the definition of false advertising. I saw "vegan" mince in the meat section the other day. I feel sorry for the elderly or learning impaired who might be accidentally buying soy substitutes when their bodie…

Don't know why you are being down voted. As a vegan, one of my biggest gripes with the recent movement is the marketing of new products and the obsession of replacing meat with vegetables. To further illustrate your point, imagine trying to replicate carrots using only veal and calling it something like "calf-rots", it absolutely makes no sense. Your issue is primarily with the false representation, my issue is that…

"chicken fries", served in a french fry container, are a thing at some fast food restaurants. So it does happen.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by shados »

_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

The impossible whooper was inevitable and brilliant. As you mentioned, the meats served were often already low quality, with fillers, and it was arguable if it was even meat. Some fast food chains served "100% beef", but it didn't taste very different from the other crap. So the bar is low.

Replacing questionable meat with hype pseudo-meat is a straight win all around. I'm as carnivore as they come, but if I have to hit a Burger King, I'm just going to get an impossible whooper: if i'm going to be getting a shitty burger either way, I'll take the one that didn't require all the logistics around cows.

This KFC one is just the next step. Replace all the questionable meat with pseudo-meat that is (hopefully) more sustainable, and leave the "real" stuff in caviar territory where people actually care.

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