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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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French fries and soda are vegetarian.

There was a lawsuit a few years back when vegetarians discovered that McDonald's was flavoring their fries with beef juice. I do think they've since stopped the practice.

I'm still fucking mad about that. Frying in beef juice made them taste so much better.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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I think it is a rather toxic movement that we are continuing to label things that which they are not. "fried plant-based ‘chicken’" it makes no sense at all A lot of it is egged on by the vegan/vegetarians and is the definition of false advertising. I saw "vegan" mince in the meat section the other day. I feel sorry for the elderly or learning impaired who might be accidentally buying soy substitutes when their bodie…

Most of the vegan meat subs are more expensive, so it's not likely they'll buy it by mistake when normal products are right next it for half the price.

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> Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it might help them cut down on calories and improve their health image. Which is “less gross” is highly objective. > I wonder what impact it'll have on climate change when McDonalds stops buying real beef. Would be a nice longbet, “ McDonald’s will stop selling beef burgers by 20XY ”. I’d be on the “no” side of that bet.

For what values of XY?

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

Also they've been completely left out of the vegetarian market other than for snacks.

…in the US. They’ve been doing vegetarian options in Europe for at least 20 years.

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The ingredients are listed on the product.

Ah, exactly what I want as a consumer. Believing I'm purchasing one thing when reading the product name, and finding out it is something else entirely when reading the ingredients list (which I rarely do).

Do you have the same problem with almond milk? Veggie burger patties?

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I believe thinking of it only as a 'meat substitution' might be missing a larger trend in that a new segment is being created.

I think they should not call it meat anything. They should just create a new thing, so people can appreciate it for what it is, rather than expect meat and get an uncanny valley effect.

The eventual goal is to get past the uncanny valley, isn't it?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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French fries and soda are vegetarian.

There was a lawsuit a few years back when vegetarians discovered that McDonald's was flavoring their fries with beef juice. I do think they've since stopped the practice.

Nope, they still cook them in beef juice.

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I think they should not call it meat anything. They should just create a new thing, so people can appreciate it for what it is, rather than expect meat and get an uncanny valley effect.

Nobody is confused when they buy this product that it’s animal based meat. The packaging is very clear about what it is. It’s called meat because it tastes and feels like meat. It’s a perfectly cromulent word to use because it describes what the product is.

When you give it a name that alludes to it being meat you're setting the product up for failure because people will ofcourse compare it to meat and since its not meat they will judge it as "worse."

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What combination of words would you like to be used to describe these new foods? Do you feel the same way about soy milk or almond milk?

The milk industrial complex feels very strongly about it, and has litigated ruthlessly to prevent non-mammal produced milk from having the word milk in it

And yet actual real-life customers are absolutely fine with it and aren't confused.

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Also they've been completely left out of the vegetarian market other than for snacks.

…in the US. They’ve been doing vegetarian options in Europe for at least 20 years.

Maybe at McDonalds but KFC are usually meat only besides the side salads.
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