Like so many other articles, this one contains no information about the possible causes and motives behind forest fires, just a bit of hearsay. Surely in most countries, land that is forest has to stay forest even after a fire and cannot legally be used as farm land? What is the legal situation in Brazil? Could it be that reforestation has other economic benefits, like new CO2 credits?
The Amazon in Brazil is on fire – how bad is it?
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Then you have 0 proof. The NASA Observatory, which studies the amazonian fire seasons since many years contradicts the current situation with evidence https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145464/fires-in-bra...
You did not read what I wrote. What I said does not go against what NASA is saying there. If anything is a corroboration.
Also, how can you say '0 proof', when you asked for government document, and I gave you a link with exactly that, news on government leaked document.
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#63Like so many other articles, this one contains no information about the possible causes and motives behind forest fires, just a bit of hearsay. Surely in most countries, land that is forest has to stay forest even after a fire and cannot legally be used as farm land? What is the legal situation in Brazil? Could it be that reforestation has other economic benefits, like new CO2 credits?
Everyone who is Brazilian will tell you it’s a long shot that this is anything but big landowners. They’ve been doing this for ages and they have murdered people who tried to stop them.
The law in Brasil is not like in other places. You think someone will stop a big landowner from getting more land after it’s been deforested? The new President has gutted the environmental agencies so nothing will or can be done.
Here’s an article on rolling stone with some more detail: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brazilia...
Notice how the local government office is under armed protection. This is to protect them from the big landowners. This is not unusual in Brasil. Please do more research
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#64This article completely fails to mention a very important issue: Scientists are worried that the amazon may approach a tipping point after which the ecosystem will completely collapse. The guardian has a better take on the story: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/23/amazon-f...
Sounds likely to me. If you mess around with any ecosystem enough it will change unpredictably
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#65Like so many other articles, this one contains no information about the possible causes and motives behind forest fires, just a bit of hearsay. Surely in most countries, land that is forest has to stay forest even after a fire and cannot legally be used as farm land? What is the legal situation in Brazil? Could it be that reforestation has other economic benefits, like new CO2 credits?
Also the article is openly quoting Brasilian forest agencies - you think that’s hearsay? That’s pretty silly
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#66VERY BAD, because now someone need to add 'in Brazil' to avoid confusion.
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#67Not gonna lie I had the impression that Amazon was gonna get wiped out in a matter of weeks considering the amount of attention this story has been getting.
All the rainforest will disappear around 2040-2060 based on current projections. Not that I blame the developing world for growing palm trees or soybean that feeds the cattle or gets into products for the developed world. Hail Globalization!
Eat your bugs you vermin.
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#68When the Amazon turns into a savannah well into our lifetime, we will see how this stuff looks like historically. I suspect though that the attention that the press is giving to this year's fires, which are catastrophic and need attention, has something to do with the fact that Brasil is about to sign a historic trade agreement with the EU and this is being used to politically pressure Brasil into stopping the increa…
Regardless of the consequences, I'd be a more at rest knowing the ones responsible will be prosecuted. However, based on history we will know this will probably not happen.
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Then you have 0 proof. The NASA Observatory, which studies the amazonian fire seasons since many years contradicts the current situation with evidence https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145464/fires-in-bra...
You did not read what I wrote. What I said does not go against what NASA is saying there. If anything is a corroboration. Also, how can you say '0 proof', when you asked for government document, and I gave you a link with exactly that, news on government leaked document.
You linked me an article. I demanded an official document, that states that the amazonia must be take down. The article only states plans to build things, not to disapear the forest. Again, people only read the titles and the accuses.
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His direct oponent was guilty of several corruption cases. It went on an extensive judiciary process i believe you have followed or you understand. It wasnt jailed summarily. The supreme court even denied by votation so, it is not something we can relate to the amazonian fire season.
His opponent was jailed with zero proof, in a sham that clear at the time for anyone that understands the justice process. But recently it was clear for everyone with the judge Moro leaked WhatsApp messages. https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/national...
Here, take your mortadela sandwich.