This should be a notification for all companies, it is time to think about more than profits. This sort of behavior must not be enabled by continued business with the Chinese state.
China’s assault on Cathay Pacific
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#142https://www.newsweek.com/cathay-ceo-refused-name-hong-kong-p... > The Taiwan News claimed that Cathay Pacific CEO Rupert Hogg's decision to resign last week came after he refused to name names to the Chinese government when he was asked to provide a list of employees who were involved in the Hong Kong protests. > China's Civil Aviation Administration ordered Cathay to provide a list of employees who were involved in…
I think Hogg had to resign anyway, regardless of the unverified claim from Newsweek and Taiwan news. A pilot was arrested for rioting: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3020736... An employee leaked the itinerary of members of the HK Police force: https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/cathay-pacific-staff-leaks-travel... Social media videos of Cathay Pacific staff involved in protests, shouting, arguing, etc.…
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't understand why GP is downvoted. Of course Chinese people (like many others) can adapt, but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? For most people, asylum is hardly an option (though Germany has granted asylum to several leaders of the HK protests). If you don't go via asylum, you have to go via normal immigration routes, and they are normally either investment or skills based these days - you…
> but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? The same way startups figure out how to survive and eventually profit: by continuously adapting and continuously looking for opportunity. In our case, some of my relatives saved up enough "under the counter" money to pay a citizen to marry them until they were able to get a green card; after which they divorced. Others just married citizens. Others got en…
Ok, that's really funny. It would never in a million years occur to me to pay someone to marry me so I could live in some country. And, yes, some recent startups have skirted or crossed the line to illegality.
My point remains - nowadays (unlike a century ago, if I'm not mistaken), the majority of people can not choose in which country to live (legally, at any rate).
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re a Hong Kong resident, what are your options? Can you flee the country with a visa to a first world country with rights less under pressure from a totalitarian state? Edit: I genuinely appreciate all of the replies to this comment as this humanitarian crisis unfolds.
As a European citizen I would really like to provide the people of Hong Kong a passport of their choosing. Our Western colonial mistakes are responsible for setting up China with this situation in HK. The best is to acknowledge our mistakes and welcome anybody that feels compromised by a Chinese annexation. In the past the Netherlands has made a promise to the people of South Maluku a republic and independent status…
How very logical and submissive.
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#145Does this scare YC China? https://blog.ycombinator.com/yc-china-qi-lu/
Almost certainly yes. But more importantly, they are probably never going to say anything about it publicly, so that they don't face backlash.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was a bit surprised the economist used the word absurdly actually. There are several incidents happened before China's aviation authority made the demand: https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/21/cathay-pacific-pilot-w... This pilots announcement happened before July 26.
The pilot talking about protestors at the airport he's landing, and supporting them did not imperil the safety of passengers. Claiming that is indeed absurd.
>did not imperil the safety of passengers.
This should be a claim reserved to the experts. If everyone can make those kind of claims why we need FAA? China's aviation authority's claim might not be reasonable, but I'm in no position to judge. And I don't think the Economist can judge either. It not only judged, but grossed over the few incidents with just one word, absurdly.
Now you are a pilot yourself, I'm sure you have encountered many aviation rules that seem redundant or even borderline unreasonable. But we would assume there are reasons behind them right? Again not saying China's aviation authority's demand is reasonable. Sometimes even FAA fucked up (737-max). But when it comes to aviation, non expert opinions are really irrelevant.
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#147I have said it before but all of this is pretty classic fascist behavior where loyalty to the corporate state is demanded without question. This is for all serving purposes a monster that the West created. I just worry about what this looks like going forward, where we have this huge massive superpower which acts this way and can't be questioned.
Actually it was Japan's invaaion of China that depleated the Guomindang national government aka Republic of China (now only rules Taiwan) resulting in their defeat in the civil war war with the CCP (Mao). Also why there is a serious hate on for each other and why Taiwan is cheering on the HK protests.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
China created China. The west is an influencer but to say it drives the direction of that country is misplaced and not accounting for how much power china has domestically.
China is perhaps the only other country in the world as impervious to foreign influence as the U.S.; and with citizens as oblivious to the outside world. Of course, neither are completely impervious. And the citizens aren't completely oblivious. But from everything I've read about China and the Chinese, including little things like how Chinese tourists and visitors behave in foreign countries, the similarities are st…
Thr CCP owes a lot to Americans, especially Roosevelt. Misguided optimism really.
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#150>Chinese inspectors have started screening the phones of Cathay crew for anti-Beijing material. If that doesn't persuade ordinary Hong Kongers to love and trust the mainland authorities, I don't know what will.
If you’re a Hong Kong resident, what are your options? Can you flee the country with a visa to a first world country with rights less under pressure from a totalitarian state? Edit: I genuinely appreciate all of the replies to this comment as this humanitarian crisis unfolds.
What humanitarian crisis? Justify your choice of words please.