Acute Effects of Electronic Cigarette Aerosol Inhalation on Vascular Function

Post by ddingus » Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 4:11 AM UTC

InvaderFizz wrote: post #38

program_whiz wrote: post #11

Many people seem to believe that vaping is harmless, this is good to make the point clearly that vaping, while not as harmful as smoking cigarettes, isn't a "cost free" activity. I personally didn't realize that it could have these effects either.

My main concern with the way things are going is that it looks an awful lot like attacks on vaping are for the purpose of driving smokers back to cigarettes. I know of no one that things vaping is harmless. It is certainly much, much less harmful than cigarettes and is infinitely preferable to cigarettes. I quit smoking, with the help of vaping. I was a pack-a-day Newport smoker that started on a ludicrously high 36m…

Post by denkmoon » Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 4:21 AM UTC

aetherspawn wrote: post #132

p1necone wrote: post #131

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Does that mean that caffeine is a risk too? Doesn't it have similar effects to nicotine? (I drink a loooooot of coffee).

Really disappointed there’s no comments here. I scrolled this whole thread to see if anyone had talked about coffee. It got me thinking because I know someone who never drank coffee in their life and lived a pretty full life nonetheless otherwise ... they’re over 100 as of recently and still self mobile, super active, sharp as a tack. She even had quite a few children. I consume like 4-5 actual brewed coffees per day…

Post by ddingus » Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 4:30 AM UTC

bobwaycott wrote: post #123

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It seems clear that e-cigs are better than smoking. It also seems clear that e-cig manufacturers are hoping to hook young non-smokers to expand their market. Both are valuable bits of info, but "e-cigs do confirmed damage" is extremely important info from a public health perspective.

> It also seems clear that e-cig manufacturers are hoping to hook young non-smokers to expand their market. This is mentioned a lot, but I find it questionable. I’ve never seen an ad that made me feel like Joe Camel or the Marlboro Man did when I was a kid. My teenagers haven’t ever thought vaping was cool based on ads or plenty of people doing it. This sounds too much like a general truism of capitalist enterprise—a…

Post by cma » Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 4:54 AM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #107

atomi wrote: post #67

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You can test this yourself. Test your blood pressure prior to vaping and then after. If you choose to ignore all else you could argue the rise in BP is transient and not concerning. I personally would not bet my life on it.

Jogging in place will also transiently raise your blood pressure.

Post by rangibaby » Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 5:49 AM UTC

graeme wrote: post #135

mikelyons wrote: post #120

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There's an information imbalance so definitive claims can't be made about cannabis smoking in the way that they can be made about Tobacco smoking.

Imsuspect marijuana smoking is just as harmful. The bulk of the trouble from tobacco is from the smoke. And if you look at the health effects of air pollution, they’re very similar to smoking: respiratory infections, heart disease, COPD, stroke and lung cancer Inhaling any burning thing is quite bad for the human organism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution#Health_effects