Earlier quoted context omitted.
> whose to stop someone from cloning a Yubico key? That is precisely what these devices are designed to stop. The device has a private key stored in hardware in a way that it cannot be retrieved by software. When you use one of these devices you dramatically decrease your number of attack vectors because now the attack has to happen physically. Someone has to actually steal your physical key. And because this is your…
Impresive, have they had external security firms try to steal the private key? Thats my final thought. I guess it makes sense. By the time an adversary gets your key you would of noticed and have locked that key from your account.
Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
31–40 of 178 posts
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#32I would much rather back SOMU. https://www.crowdsupply.com/solokeys/somu#products-top
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#33I thought Yubikey NEO supported NFC on iPhones. I remember reading there was some flaky support for a while, then a new SDK was released for iOS 11. Is there any advantage to using the pluggable Lightning Yubikey over the NEO? Perhaps better app support?
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Simple: security keys combat phishing, two-factor apps do not. A security key doesn't just authenticate you to a site: it also authenticates the site to you.
Security keys are two factor as well. In fact there are multiple different types of 2FA with different security levels. SMS 2FA is one of the weakest. Push Login is moderate. Scanning encrypted barcodes is highest and also phishing proof like FIDO keys.
I have never seen a solution like this, but I can't see how it would avoid simple relay phish, it seems as though bad guys can just get themselves a legitimate encrypted barcode and have their victim scan it.
Maybe you haven't explained this solution properly, do you have a link?
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#35That sounds nice. But while using U2F/FIDO for a few years (with two HyperFIDOs, one for "daily" use attached to my key-chain, the other as a backup in a safe), I found the most common problem was that websites/services don't tread these keys as first class citizens. For example GitHub: I have my two keys setup there, but I can't opt-out of SMS authentication. If I knew I could use my keys at more services, I would a…
One thing you can do to mitigate that problem is to create a Google Voice number. Those are harder to port as long as you created it on Google Voice.
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't know about 1Pass, I've been a paying member for a while. I'll try that out! But to put a finer point on your actual statement, I usually screenshot the MFA setup in case my phone gets lost, so I can easily re-set it up.
With SAASPASS Authenticator you can set up recovery in case you lose your or change your phone.
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#37Also can anyone explain the multiple models too me? https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/
Say I want an USB-A key, I can choose from three and they all have different prices. The Security Keys are less secure than a FIPS or a 5? Maybe I'm just too end user but the multiple choices to me are the exact opposite of the easy to use principle. The whole product page is just confusing.
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#38That sounds nice. But while using U2F/FIDO for a few years (with two HyperFIDOs, one for "daily" use attached to my key-chain, the other as a backup in a safe), I found the most common problem was that websites/services don't tread these keys as first class citizens. For example GitHub: I have my two keys setup there, but I can't opt-out of SMS authentication. If I knew I could use my keys at more services, I would a…
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#39That sounds nice. But while using U2F/FIDO for a few years (with two HyperFIDOs, one for "daily" use attached to my key-chain, the other as a backup in a safe), I found the most common problem was that websites/services don't tread these keys as first class citizens. For example GitHub: I have my two keys setup there, but I can't opt-out of SMS authentication. If I knew I could use my keys at more services, I would a…
I'm surprised that you can't remove/disable the fallback SMS number. One thing you can do to mitigate that problem is to create a Google Voice number. Those are harder to port as long as you created it on Google Voice.
Re: Yubico launches its dual USB-C and Lightning two-factor security key
#40I thought Yubikey NEO supported NFC on iPhones. I remember reading there was some flaky support for a while, then a new SDK was released for iOS 11. Is there any advantage to using the pluggable Lightning Yubikey over the NEO? Perhaps better app support?
FIDO (WebAuthn) via browser abstracts some nuances from you such as "how do you know you can trust the server you're talking to?" and "how do you deal with the difference between FIDO and FIDO2 authenticators?" alongside other details that the native SDK's don't abstract away from you.
(For background: part of my day job is implementing authentication systems.)