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Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#82

... imagine this the other way. Imagine that "@rulesObeyer" is the one with the agenda. Imagine RO is paid by a competitor to spread misinformation and "stir the pot", then re-read the thread. Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions. It makes for a fun read. (Similarly, "anyone condemning this comment or defending @rulesObeyer must just be @rulesObeyer in…

This is exactly what I’d say if I was trying to make myself feel better about a messed-up status quo.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#83

I doubt these are bots. One of them says: > I don't get compensated per tweet. I get paid $15/hr whether I am answering tweets or out on the floor stowing. I do this 2 days a week and 2 days a week I stow. While I think it's weird that Amazon is doing this, I also doubt that the warehouse jobs are bad jobs. I've done manual labor for less than $15/hr and I'd much rather have a job like that than, say, a job in a rest…

> I also doubt that the warehouse jobs are bad jobs I agree that these folks are probably real people, but you must have missed the last several month's worth of very public information about the conditions in their warehouses. https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-employees-describe-pe... https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/11/18260472/amazon-ware... https://www.newsweek.com/amazon-drivers-warehouse-conditions...…

I find it difficult to distinguish between people with legitimate complaints and people who are ideologically opposed to amazon (BigCo) existing at all.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#84
post #24

The interesting part here was an assertion that the Ambassador accounts were managed by Sprinklr for Amazon, a marketing platform. Is that true? Edit, also - https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/sprinklr-suppo...

Yes, and you can easily verify it by clicking on any of the tweets by any of the @AmazonFC* accounts.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#85
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This may also stem from some union-busting messaging. One of the talking points that you see on anti-union posters and in videos is "unions get in the way of you talking to your manager, when you can talk to your manager directly you can address concerns straightaway with them." This reminds me of that.

Yes...and is that not factual? My experience being in a union tells me it is.

My experience being in a union tells me it's not.

But unions literally are (within the law) whatever their members decide they will be, so if you expect that of your potential union, it just means you expect it of your coworkers.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#86
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not real, they're Twitter chat bots. That Amazon thinks this was a good PR move is truly astonishing.

It’s astonishing people are so confident these are bots. No real evidence of that and it’s more likely they’re real. Occam’s razor.

The evidence came a bit further down with one commenter posting a picture of one being male in one post and female in another.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#87

They are NOT bots. They are people getting paid a few bucks to spew the Word of the Lord ( in this case Jeff Bezos ) It's the corporate version of troll farms.

Could you explain https://twitter.com/TheKenChilds/status/1161847717397696512 then?

Account mistakenly reused?

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#88

... imagine this the other way. Imagine that "@rulesObeyer" is the one with the agenda. Imagine RO is paid by a competitor to spread misinformation and "stir the pot", then re-read the thread. Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions. It makes for a fun read. (Similarly, "anyone condemning this comment or defending @rulesObeyer must just be @rulesObeyer in…

> Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions

Yes, all of that "evidence" from paid "Amazon FC ambassadors".

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not real, they're Twitter chat bots. That Amazon thinks this was a good PR move is truly astonishing.

They're people (one person?) following a corporate script, but they're clearly not literally chatbots. Chatbots aren't even this coherent.

Maybe not the ones you're used to but Amazon is a tech company at heart. They have the resources to improve on the algorithms. I'd love to meet the engineer responsible for this.
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