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Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by twic »

pjc50 wrote: post #35
inanutshellus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. We're even psychologically inclined to agree with RO because "it" is "fighting the good fight" and "fighting The Man", etc. Whether she's legitimately exactly who she says she is or "it" is just a next-level PR AI whose sole purpose is harming Amazon, we have little way of knowing, especially outside this specific example.

On the other hand, this obfuscatory conversation and the allegation that random individual accounts are paid anti-corporate is one that adds to the weight for "inanutshellus may be an Amazon shill account, or at least employee"

I'm a paid anti-corporate shill, and so is my wife!

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by PaulRobinson »

leftyted wrote: post #44

I doubt these are bots. One of them says: > I don't get compensated per tweet. I get paid $15/hr whether I am answering tweets or out on the floor stowing. I do this 2 days a week and 2 days a week I stow. While I think it's weird that Amazon is doing this, I also doubt that the warehouse jobs are bad jobs. I've done manual labor for less than $15/hr and I'd much rather have a job like that than, say, a job in a rest…

This suggests that there is something weird going on: https://twitter.com/TheKenChilds/status/1161847717397696512

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by GarrisonPrime »

Frondo wrote: post #66
codingdave wrote: post #13

A real gem in there was the comment of "there is actually an open door policy at the FCs, which allows us to directly communicate with our managers if we have concerns or issues." Think about that for a second. The fact that they feel that is notable to call out, saying they "actually" have that... implies that they believe it is normal to not have an open door policy, and not be allowed to talk to their managers abo…

This may also stem from some union-busting messaging. One of the talking points that you see on anti-union posters and in videos is "unions get in the way of you talking to your manager, when you can talk to your manager directly you can address concerns straightaway with them." This reminds me of that.

Yes...and is that not factual?

My experience being in a union tells me it is.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by deckar01 »

avsteele wrote: post #14

I see people saying they are 'chat bots'; any evidence of this other than people's general feeling? To me the FCA's came off like normal human beings who actually like their job a bit more than average (these people do exist). The people replying to them come off as infantile.

One comment pointed out that they often tweet via an app called Sprinklr. They are probably real employees being randomly assigned tweets that need user engagement. Sprinklr is a social media advertising service. Paying employees to tweet about their employer is advertisement.

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Post by PaulRobinson »

PedroBatista wrote: post #29

They are NOT bots. They are people getting paid a few bucks to spew the Word of the Lord ( in this case Jeff Bezos ) It's the corporate version of troll farms.

Could you explain https://twitter.com/TheKenChilds/status/1161847717397696512 then?

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Post by aerovistae »

inanutshellus wrote: post #8

... imagine this the other way. Imagine that "@rulesObeyer" is the one with the agenda. Imagine RO is paid by a competitor to spread misinformation and "stir the pot", then re-read the thread. Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions. It makes for a fun read. (Similarly, "anyone condemning this comment or defending @rulesObeyer must just be @rulesObeyer in…

Not seeing it. RO is speaking like a real person with pretty reasonable arguments; the others feel like exactly what she accuses them of being: paid shills.

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Post by dx87 »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #33
dx87 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That could also be interpreted as a response to the people who talk about the warehouse workers like they're slave labor with zero rights. It's like saying "Believe it or not, we actually have an open door policy and can talk to our managers if there are any issues."

The past reports on Amazon warehouses call out how strict and automated the management is: that the local managers don't have the authority to really do much in the way of providing flexibility (or humanity) to people.

Yeah, I don't doubt the reports about it. I was just commenting about how "we actually have an open door policy" doesn't necessarily mean that the employees are brainwashed into thinking that having basic rights is something to applaud.

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Post by gvx »

avsteele wrote: post #14

I see people saying they are 'chat bots'; any evidence of this other than people's general feeling? To me the FCA's came off like normal human beings who actually like their job a bit more than average (these people do exist). The people replying to them come off as infantile.

Not "chat bots", "bots". Which is a bit of a misnomer but has come to mean astroturf accounts on Twitter.

A single person or a small group of people manages a large number of social media accounts in order to pretend to represent a certain group of people. Because so many accounts are managed by so few people (whose full-time job it is to engage with others online to try and change their mind), these accounts tend to not have distinguishable voices or viewpoints, when you're talking to one it's like talking to a robot, or, like the linked tweet says, to the borg.

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

aerovistae wrote: post #76
inanutshellus wrote: post #8

... imagine this the other way. Imagine that "@rulesObeyer" is the one with the agenda. Imagine RO is paid by a competitor to spread misinformation and "stir the pot", then re-read the thread. Suddenly RO seems incapable of reason or adapting in the face of clear evidence against its assertions. It makes for a fun read. (Similarly, "anyone condemning this comment or defending @rulesObeyer must just be @rulesObeyer in…

Not seeing it. RO is speaking like a real person with pretty reasonable arguments; the others feel like exactly what she accuses them of being: paid shills.

They dodge like politicians.

Re: I feel like im talking to the borg

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Post by all_factz »

castlecrasher2 wrote: post #55

This is a striking example of someone being so concerned about a group that they don't listen to members of that group.

Is it? I think the concern is that the members of the group are paid to share a certain message. They’re not allowed to share how they really feel, since they’re tweeting on the clock.
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