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> The word "Alpha-Kevin" (combination of Alpha male and the given name), as being representative of a particularly unintelligent young person Alpha-Kevin is a term I'll have to use more often

This is the first time I heard that about the name Kevin! I've heard a similar stereotype about "Chad" though.

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It also applies here in France, especially northern/eastern parts close to Germany. Well, not for Chantal, which is not a very exotic name here.

Same in the Netherlands. There are a lot of names that will instantly identify you as someone born from parents hailing from the lower socio-economic classes. If you meet a boy named Jayden (the present day Dutch Kevin I guess?), you can be pretty sure his parents didn't go to college. This information should be irrelevant, but in reality it is used by whoever they meet, consciously or unconsciously. The problem with…

> If you meet a boy named Jayden (the present day Dutch Kevin I guess?), you can be pretty sure his parents didn't go to college.

In Poland it's Brian for a boy and Jessica for a girl. Often spelled phonetically (Brajan, Dżesika).

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It also applies here in France, especially northern/eastern parts close to Germany. Well, not for Chantal, which is not a very exotic name here.

Somewhat in Italy as well. There's a scene in an 80s movie where two "coatti" (I can't really find a translation for this word. Let's say "white trash" from Rome) are deciding what name to choose for their hypothetical son. The guy would like to call him Kevin because "it gives a sense of respect".

Here's the scene (somewhat NSFW, I guess) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUyKG96xlsk

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It also applies here in France, especially northern/eastern parts close to Germany. Well, not for Chantal, which is not a very exotic name here.

Living as a (expat) Kevin in The Netherlands for many years and I've never heard this. Might be that my friends are just polite. Interested to know if this is well-known to those who grew up in The Netherlands.

Do you have an accent (preferably from the Anglosphere) that gives you away as an expat? The stigma (at least in Germany) basically doesn‘t apply to native English speakers (or at least much, much less so). Nobody here makes fun of Kevin Costner for being named Kevin. The stigma is specifically about lower class Germans frequently choosing certain foreign names for their kids.

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Naming things is hard. Naming people is harder. Many (most?) expecting parents spend hours researching names online or in "1000 baby name ideas"-books. My parents love my name. I hate it. There are too many of us for names to be a unique identifier. First names are too generic to say anything about us, and they're usually assigned at birth, before any of our traits are known. Family names are even worse; here's your…

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It forever complicates your life as many official correspondences will ask if you've ever been known by a different name, and require you to provide documentation that the change was official and what your previous name was.

It's only a small hassle, and not many people do it as a percentage, but the option is there.

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My name is Kevin. I'm 27 and I'm from (west) germany. Most people I get to know will bring the topic up. I got a master's degree in physics and I have heard people say something like 'your name doesn't fit your profile at all' more times than I can count. I've seen girls in my sphere discard guys on Tinder partly due to being named Kevin. People do joke about the name and that's ok. It's not terrible but it isn't gre…

same. being named kevin is a hard life in germany, but sometimes i can't help but wonder if it actually benefited me in some way. it tought me a great lesson about people being spiteful without realising it, just because it's been established by the social environment that you live in. while some people are just consciously being dickheads, others might have this negative stigma associated with the name Kevin without…

> ... people being racist or homophobic without ever meeting people of the "other group".

In my limited experience, this is the norm, not an exception.

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You're better off sticking with the long established names of your culture. My parents picked really boring names (as I thought) for our family. We were named after our grandparents. We used to regularly chastise them for this when we were young. Now I'm glad of it. I could have been called Calvyn.

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Naming things is hard. Naming people is harder. Many (most?) expecting parents spend hours researching names online or in "1000 baby name ideas"-books. My parents love my name. I hate it. There are too many of us for names to be a unique identifier. First names are too generic to say anything about us, and they're usually assigned at birth, before any of our traits are known. Family names are even worse; here's your…

> Naming things is hard. Naming people is harder. Many (most?) expecting parents spend hours researching names online or in "1000 baby name ideas"-books. My parents love my name. I hate it.

Did your parents not give you multiple names?

My parents gave me multiple names, and I've done the same with my child. We gave our child a relatively short, practical name, with the other 2 names being longer and more "luxury". Same as I have. I also grew up with a mother who used her second name. The main annoyance I have is that my first name is common (therefore chance there's another person with same name around), and native variation in my country yet not easily pronounceable in English. I just use a different variation or shorten it.

As for the last name, I find the old Nordic way interesting. Iceland apparently still uses it, see [1] for details.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_name

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I can confirm that it applies to other countries of the region. I think it's a result of this wild fascination with America that came after the fall of Soviet Union. People westernised quickly and without much reflection upon the process and are giving idiotic names to their kids. "Brajan" (phonetic for Brian) and "Dżesika" (Jessica) are already memes in Poland.

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Naming things is hard. Naming people is harder. Many (most?) expecting parents spend hours researching names online or in "1000 baby name ideas"-books. My parents love my name. I hate it. There are too many of us for names to be a unique identifier. First names are too generic to say anything about us, and they're usually assigned at birth, before any of our traits are known. Family names are even worse; here's your…

---redacted as there is much better information in the response below--- It forever complicates your life as many official correspondences will ask if you've ever been known by a different name, and require you to provide documentation that the change was official and what your previous name was. It's only a small hassle, and not many people do it as a percentage, but the option is there.

Sorry, but you've mangled the methods a bit.

> All of them are a little weird but one is free - you can effectively write to one of the courts in London to say you have been known by a different name for some time, so would like your official records updated to that new name - but this route is unconventional and somewhat archaic.

This is an enrolled deed-poll. It's not free, it costs £36. It's not unconventional. It's a commonly used method because it's the change that is most widely accepted by other organisations.

> The more often used method (deed poll) costs £35 and takes a couple of weeks

Deed-polls are free. You can write your own, or you can download a template from the Internet.

We don't have legal names in England. You can change your own name at any time, for any reason, so long as you don't have the intent to defraud. You can change it to almost anything you like.

There are three methods:

If you're over 18 you can just stop using your old name and start using your new name. This is just as valid as any other name change method. It doesn't work well because banks and doctors tend to ignore it.

The next step up is to use a deed poll. This is free. It's just a piece of paper saying that you've stopped using your old name and you're only going to be using your new name from now on. A deed poll is just a written version of the first step. For some reason having it in writing helps people accept it more. But some banks don't accept this form of deed poll.

The next step up is an enrolled deed poll. You take your deed poll and you enroll it at the Royal Courts of Justice and have it published in The Gazette. It costs £36. This form should be accepted by everyone. Because it's cheap, and because it's accepted by banks, and because it makes life easier, this is the version that most people chose.

https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll

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