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The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by wolfgke »

bluedino wrote: post #47

Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Ugh. What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic. Github is great, but they bought that. Office 365? OneDrive? I'll give you those. Hosted Exchange is a thorn in my side. Internet Explorer and Edge are (were?) both a joke. I don't have any experience with Azure. Xbox is great. Their server product…

> What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic.

Visual Studio is great.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by jimnotgym »

I like Teams.

I picked it up really quickly. My team picked it up really quickly. The rest of the company started asking me for it, which was my plan. I like the Sharepoint integration, the Outlook meetings integration, the Planner integration. I like that it works with my mac users. Yes it could be a tad quicker...

If you are getting too many messages it is your organisation that is broken, not your IM app.

Most of the other complaints in this article are to do with the set up, which the writer mentions in some cases but not others. As a manager I am very happy that I can control who is added outside of the organisation, for instance.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by entropea »

baxtr wrote: post #46

As a long time hater and forced user of slack: how does Teams compare to slack? Should I be happy “that we at least have slack”?!

Slack is better than Teams in my opinion, but Slack still suffers from things even IRC has advantages over. Teams UI is atrocious.

IRC is free, has channel administration & granular permissions, a working & functional tab complete, many different clients with extremely low memory & cpu usage. The biggest problem with IRC though is not being able to read back without the use of a bouncer or something like paid IRCcloud.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by scottlegrand2 »

Reminds me a lot of the horror show that is Amazon chime, Amazon's alternative to slack.

That said it had some half implemented good ideas, but whenever you found a bug in it, its AWS-based team pretty much told you where to shove that bug report.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by inetknght »

vbordo wrote: post #34

> "[caching/searching] is awful on any platform. It’s not clear what the bounds are for any search and only a very brief history is cached locally. Everything else has to be fetched remotely so scrolling is painful and searching glacial." I've felt this frustration with Teams and Slack. Effective search in any real-time messaging platform seems difficult to deliver. Has anyone else had this problem and found a good s…

> Effective search in any real-time messaging platform seems difficult to deliver. Has anyone else had this problem and found a good solution to it?

Log chats to text files and learn `grep`. Keep chat logs organized in a daily/weekly/monthly/yearly directory hierarchy.

I think many people would be amazed at just how fast their disk can read tens or hundreds of MBs of chat logs; how fast `grep` can find what you're looking for.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by jimnotgym »

Neil44 wrote: post #10

I can believe they’re overtaking slack because they make Teams an aggressive default install with the Office 365 client, and it’s replacing Skype for Business.

It is not in fact installed with every Office 365 install. I just had Teams pushed with a separate group policy because of this.

They will overtake Slack easily since it is a free addition to most 365 plans

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by giancarlostoro »

nevir wrote: post #48
mullingitover wrote: post #7

> "This means that if someone does @${channel_name} you will get an alert. MS have not implemented muting as a feature. Secondly, for all those automatic/admin channels, you can’t unsubscribe yourself (or at least not with the default policies). Brilliant, isn’t it? Unavoidable alerts that any idiot on any channel can annoy people with." At my last job we figured out the fastest way to get your company off Teams: add…

Our CEO gave up on slack long ago. Email is the best way to get their attention.

Slack and Teams are different. Slack has muting. Teams does not.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by jimnotgym »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #19
Neil44 wrote: post #10

I can believe they’re overtaking slack because they make Teams an aggressive default install with the Office 365 client, and it’s replacing Skype for Business.

That's correct. The company where I am currently working at was using Slack but recently decided to stop paying for Slack and instead use Teams since they were already paying for a subscription to Office 365 for each employee. I hate it. My colleagues hate it. The UI is terrible. Most of the time navigating between the channels is a pain and the UI is just horrendous. I think the funniest thing that was released late…

>The emojis are of bad quality and look like crap.

Maybe an oversite on my part, but I didn't even consider this as I was evaluating an enterprise productivity app...

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Post by jimnotgym »

vbordo wrote: post #34

> "[caching/searching] is awful on any platform. It’s not clear what the bounds are for any search and only a very brief history is cached locally. Everything else has to be fetched remotely so scrolling is painful and searching glacial." I've felt this frustration with Teams and Slack. Effective search in any real-time messaging platform seems difficult to deliver. Has anyone else had this problem and found a good s…

Yes,

Keep your chats short and to the point...I never even noticed there was a search feature

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