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The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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I just wish I could stop Teams from starting up every time I log in and without creating a Teams account. I looked up various solutions others have come up with and it is seemingly very convoluted.

This is an issue with SAML pass through and should be fixed soon.

Not a Microsoft developer or even read the road map before posting this comment. Ouook, Zoom, etc already do this and it would be foolish of M$ not to fix this soon.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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post #10

I can believe they’re overtaking slack because they make Teams an aggressive default install with the Office 365 client, and it’s replacing Skype for Business.

That's correct. The company where I am currently working at was using Slack but recently decided to stop paying for Slack and instead use Teams since they were already paying for a subscription to Office 365 for each employee. I hate it. My colleagues hate it. The UI is terrible. Most of the time navigating between the channels is a pain and the UI is just horrendous. I think the funniest thing that was released late…

Please educate us on your compliance requirements that allows you to 'throw the baby out with the bath water'

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Interestingly we do not have issues like this within our company. Recently switched from emails to Ms team and have never used slack. We are pretty happy with ms team with for few reasons: screen share, seems video or audio call, great support on desktop and mobile app, connection with everything Microsoft like word, excel, onenote etc. we are greatly enjoying it.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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We use it with some success on a medium team and it’s been pretty well received.

That said: what we came from was Skype. No not the business kind, the regular one with blinking ads.

Compared to that, Teams isn’t that bad. Nothing is.

We evaluated Slack and a few others but the cost difference to slack when you already have a huge tab at Microsoft for their tools is pretty substantial if I remember correctly.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Interestingly we do not have issues like this within our company. Recently switched from emails to Ms team and have never used slack. We are pretty happy with ms team with for few reasons: screen share, seems video or audio call, great support on desktop and mobile app, connection with everything Microsoft like word, excel, onenote etc. we are greatly enjoying it.

How big is your company? Have you tried the search 'feature'?

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#47
Microsoft ruins Skype, then tries making their own communication tool. Ugh.

What is it again that Microsoft is getting such accolades for? Visual Studio Code is fantastic. Github is great, but they bought that. Office 365? OneDrive? I'll give you those. Hosted Exchange is a thorn in my side. Internet Explorer and Edge are (were?) both a joke.

I don't have any experience with Azure. Xbox is great. Their server products have been fine since Windows 2000. Windows 10 is a joke. The Surface line isn't anything special.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#48

> "This means that if someone does @${channel_name} you will get an alert. MS have not implemented muting as a feature. Secondly, for all those automatic/admin channels, you can’t unsubscribe yourself (or at least not with the default policies). Brilliant, isn’t it? Unavoidable alerts that any idiot on any channel can annoy people with." At my last job we figured out the fastest way to get your company off Teams: add…

Our CEO gave up on slack long ago. Email is the best way to get their attention.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#49

It’s astonishing how bad Microsoft seems to be at things like this. I don’t really understand what’s going on in there.

Microsoft used to be fairly decent at making software that was usable by ordinary people. Then they took over the Fortune 500 world after IBM crumbled, and promptly caught Enterprise Disease.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#50
How is it that businesses get sold on these poor groupware solutions when they can:

a. self-host open-source Zulip (or Matrix/Riot, which is not that good compared to plain old The Lounge IRC) totally free

b. pay for hosted software that’s open-source so their information isn’t hostaged when they decide their solution is crap?

I see these kinds of poor choices made all the time. People usually don’t want to do the research or a salesman walks into the office and they get sold a contract.

It really bugs me because I think: these people are making hundreds of thousands of dollars for taking other smart people on a ride. Is making hundreds of thousands of dollars orthogonal to big picture thinking?

Is there a position where someone hires me to walk into their office and save them thousands of dollars on unnecessary SaaS contracts? I’d do that job with glee.

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