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Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

I am waiting for the Time Cube to make an appearance.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much does your bullshit detector hit with their promo video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_2HwAmge8

That video is amazing. The conference is really playing into Time AIs game by censoring it. Underlying the story that this new technology is just too big and too groundbreaking for the industry to accept :-D

BlackHat isn't really the "industry to accept it". It's the industry that obliterates it as it's purpose.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#153
For me, the best stream of Twitter comments about this is this one where the company claims that no Encryption algorithms are peer reviewed and then, several people working for legitimate companies tell them that's just bollocks:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Robert_E_Grant_/status/1160226095...

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#154

This reminds me of a person who somehow managed an invitation to give a presentation at UC Berkeley on database compression in 1993, with similar levels of snake-oil. I remember one of the funnier moments, a theme of the presentation was how there were more and more large data sets out there, including the Library of Congress. In a burst of enthusiasm, the presenter gushed about how they even had a Stradivarius violi…

I read your comment up to the last paragraph and was going to comment about “VP at Gartner ” and how these consulting companies (and Accenture, Deloitte, etc) run on bullshit but your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I wonder what can be done to nuke these BS companies out of existence. Anyone has ideas?

These companies provide political value. I think of them as black boxes that don't really do anything to its input but give political weight to the arbitrary claim associated with the input. Want to cover your fuckup on a project? Hire Accenture for a few months to do something meaningless, like produce a report with all the problems in the project. Change nothing. Then say that clearly the project is more difficult than you've anticipated, you even retained a consultant that said this and that. More resources are required.

You can do training sessions for people you want to advance or hold back. In both cases sessions would be meaningless and void of any real value, except that they assign attribute Foo to the group of people. Then you can say that only people with Foo can do Bar, moving those people forward in their career. Alternatively you can overcome some bureaucratic obstacle by claiming that you do Foo regularly, which is a requirement from some authority for some reason.

I don't really know how this kind of politics works, but this is how I tend to think about it.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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post #76

Here's a instagram post from the founder: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/vp/1ba57134a58455de0595824... Also look at his papers. He likes to draw a lot instead of doing math.

You're an asshole. Geometric relationships between numbers are doing math.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.

I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom). You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.

> only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom).

Perhaps that's what I'm seeing, yes

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#158

This reminds me of a person who somehow managed an invitation to give a presentation at UC Berkeley on database compression in 1993, with similar levels of snake-oil. I remember one of the funnier moments, a theme of the presentation was how there were more and more large data sets out there, including the Library of Congress. In a burst of enthusiasm, the presenter gushed about how they even had a Stradivarius violi…

I'm not sure the division is that strong. Years ago, I repeatedly saw a talk from a wellish known academic about "compressed" SMS messages that were simply a prearranged code. This was shortly before text messages became very cheap, wireless networking became much more common, and phone processors were in the process of becoming much more powerful. Then there was the professor pushing their "Lego" model of network pr…

many, many CS research papers obfuscate their methods as a barrier to entry by making them sound more complicated than they are ... case in point any paper describing part of its computation as applying the 'Haar Wavelet Basis'

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the Harmonic Flux Resonator That's hilarious, I'd swear I've heard that on Star Trek Next Generation an age ago!

Wasn't that the thing that powered the DeLorean in Back to the Future?

Naah, that was a much more normal "flux capacitor", and it was only "fluxing":

>Time circuits on, Flux Capacitor ... fluxing, Engine running All right.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

#160
post #18

Why did Black Hat delete it, rather than making snide comments about it? A video of people laughing at the speaker would have been great.

The speaker('s company) paid a hefty price for him to be there to present. Black Hat doesn't wanna dissuade any other potential vendors from not giving them their money.

Black Hat publicly disavowed the talk. Tell us more about what Black Hat does and doesn't want to do?
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