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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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And he was under 24/7 camera surveillance. If it was a clean suicide there should be video evidence.

And wouldn't you know it? "Oops, camera malfunction. We'll investigate that, too..."

That's indeed what happened.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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This makes me so angry. Such an important case, so much on the line. And then this. And if you question the official narrative of "suicide", you will probably soon be labeled a conspiracy theorist. Oh an just by the way, this news broke first on 4chan (thread 222518349). That just on the matter of what the value of these sites are. edit: and already there are [dead] comments who question this

Why would you doubt suicide?

Because it's just too convenient.

He was murdered, far more logically.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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I failed to post this the other day (already submitted). Searched HN and it was not here. Probably marked off-topic or similar. When I called it out on an unrelated thread my comment was flagged. I don't see a mechanism on HN to refute "off-topic" posts. Marvin Minsky's relationship with Epstein was not of interest to HN readers but Epstein's death is? Mystifies me…

It was submitted several times, and instantly flagged to death each time. Disappointing.

It's become clear (to me) over the years that HN, despite it's apparent simplicity, is well curated by astroturfers.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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I failed to post this the other day (already submitted). Searched HN and it was not here. Probably marked off-topic or similar. When I called it out on an unrelated thread my comment was flagged. I don't see a mechanism on HN to refute "off-topic" posts. Marvin Minsky's relationship with Epstein was not of interest to HN readers but Epstein's death is? Mystifies me…

It was submitted several times, and instantly flagged to death each time. Disappointing.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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I failed to post this the other day (already submitted). Searched HN and it was not here. Probably marked off-topic or similar. When I called it out on an unrelated thread my comment was flagged. I don't see a mechanism on HN to refute "off-topic" posts. Marvin Minsky's relationship with Epstein was not of interest to HN readers but Epstein's death is? Mystifies me…

It was submitted several times, and instantly flagged to death each time. Disappointing.

That's the HN shadow banning.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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If they visited Epstein's island, they knew. You might assume “Pedophile Island” is some cheeky name that the press came up with. But, no, that’s actually it’s name. The people who lived there called it that. If someone went to the island, they had to know.

Clinton and Trump never visited the island. This man was a bullshitter and no doubt he exaggerated the scale of powerful friendships he had.

Clinton visited the island. New documents were unsealed yesterday:

> Bill Clinton: The former president visited Epstein’s private island while Giuffre was there, she claims in one of her depositions. Giuffre stated that Epstein held a dinner for Clinton on the island. (In a statement previously made to Forbes, Clinton denied ever visiting Epstein’s private island.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/08/09/unseal...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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post #186

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Call me naive, but I would simply conclude the jailing facilities are underfunded and unable to prevent someone from committing suicide. I just can't imagine someone being able to order such a murder. There would be too many people involved and risks of getting caught.

Epstein was supposed to be under 24/7 camera surveillance. But they are saying there was a camera malfunction. Dunno man it really doesn't add up to a suicide.

That seems to be a thus-far unsubstantiated Twitter rumor: https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-camera-malfun...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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These headlines... "Financier" Everything I have read since this came out states no one has any idea how/where Epstein made his money. And yet, the headlines read "Financier." Not convicted criminal. Suspected sex trafficker, rapist, pedophile, or anything of that nature. Everything about Epstein and this case shows the insane power imbalance between those at the top of our society and everyone else.

In the press, the alleged victims were "young women" - not "minors" or "underaged". The difference in reporting is amazing to behold.

There is a term for that.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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This perspective was reached after a discussion with a top adviser of Trump, Clinton, Obama and other world leaders.

Its very HN to get downvoted for sharing a perspective and how one arrived at it. Acosta said the reason he didn’t give him a harsher sentence back in 2007 was because he “belonged to intelligence”. >> He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he…

Funny how you got downvoted even though this is correct. Nobody wants to face the possibility some of this might be true, it's too much to handle
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